Practices of Presence and Why They Matter: A Conversation with Erin Geesaman Rabke and Carl Rabke

In this podcast, we (Erin and Carl) dive into one our our favorite topics: practices of presence and why they matter.

This is the first of a series of three podcasts on practices of presence, practices of depth and soul, and practices of reconnection are remembrance, and why they matter. These three interweaving practices are a foundation for the 13-month Refugia mentoring training the begins February 2026.

In our conversation, we weave in some beautiful poetry and guided practices, so we get to experience practices of presence, rather that just talk about them.

We speak of the challenge of modern life and how much our attention is pulled away from presence, with the pace of life, and phones and screens and all the information we digest on daily basis, and how our embodied presence is always right there, as the Zen saying goes, "closer than our own skin." And how important it is to have practices that help us remember and return over and over through the day.

We also speak of growing an embodied ground, and how movement can either deepen the split and objectification, (doing something to our body) or can deepen intimacy with life. We also speak of how when we learn how to learn, and learn how to deepen presence through movemernt, that touches every aspect of our lives.

We speak of the present moment as being vast enough to hold the past and future, to hold the ancestors and future ones.

So many rich topics, quotes and practices in this conversation. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did.

To find our more about our Refugia training, you can visit https://embodimentmatters.com/refugia/

And to join us in our weekday online embodied meditation practice, you can visit https://embodimentmatters.com/meditation/