Have you ever felt like the story you’ve been told about alcohol is missing the most important truths?

In this episode of Sober & Lit, Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams are joined by Mike Marshall, CEO of the U.S. Alcohol Policy Alliance, for a conversation that pulls alcohol out of the shadows and into the light—without shame, fear, or finger-pointing.

This episode explores:

1. Why alcohol’s real harms are rarely discussed
2. The truth about alcohol as a toxic, addictive carcinogen
3. Mike’s personal sobriety journey
4. How alcohol connects to larger public health crises
5. What everyday people can do to shift the narrative

We also ask the bigger questions:
Why is alcohol treated differently than other drugs? Who benefits from our silence? And what becomes possible when we tell the truth with compassion?

We invite you to listen in!!
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Guest Resources for Mike Marshall:
Website: http://www.alcoholpolicy.org
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@usalcoholpolicy
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/USAlcoholPolicy/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/usalcoholpolicyalliance/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/us-alcohol-policy-alliance/posts/?feedView=all
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@usalcoholpolicyalliance

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