Ep 132 - THE THING (1951) vs. THE THING (1982) - Cold War Classic to Cosmic Horror Masterpiece
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THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD (1951) d. Christian Nyby (USA)
THE THING (1982) d. John Carpenter (USA)
THE THING (2011) d. Matthijs van Heijningen (USA)
Tonight we're discussing Howard Hawks' The Thing from Another World (1951) and John Carpenter's The Thing (1982), two science-fiction horror films that, despite sharing a source in John W. Campbell Jr.'s novella Who Goes There?, reflect very different eras in filmmaking and cultural anxiety and both represent landmark moments in genre cinema.
The 1951 The Thing from Another World, directed by Christian Nyby with producer Howard Hawks leaning heavily over his shoulder, is emblematic of Cold War science fiction. Its screenplay by Charles Lederer and an uncredited Ben Hecht, significantly adapts Campbell's story, transforming it into a brisk, dialogue-driven ensemble piece. The alien is a humanoid, plant-based creature (played by future Gunsmoke star James Arness) that represents the fear of external invasion and ideological contamination prevalent in early-1950s America.
John Carpenter's The Thing (1982), by contrast, reflects a far bleaker worldview. Screenwriter Bill Lancaster returns more faithfully to Campbell's original concept of a shape-shifting alien menace, emphasizing uncertainty and mistrust. Carpenter's film centers on paranoia rather than invasion, with the alien's ability to perfectly imitate its victims turning the threat inward, eroding trust among the characters. The groundbreaking practical effects by Rob Bottin redefined onscreen monster movies, pushing the boundaries of what mainstream audiences could imagine or endure.
Unlike its predecessor, which was immediately hailed as an artistic and commercial success, The Thing was initially reviled by critics and commercially unsuccessful. Thankfully, it has since been reappraised as a masterpiece in the 40+ years since its release.
Join AC and his incredible panel of guests (Fraser Coffeen, Chris Hainsworth, Katie McClean Hainsworth, Kevin Matthews, Ryan Olson) as we explore the genre's evolution from externalized fears to psychological and existential dread and everything in between!
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FRASER COFFEEN is the co-host of Creepy History, a podcast dedicated to all the creepy stuff you wish they taught you in High School. He's been published in Horror Homeroom magazine and How to Analyze and Review Comics
CHRIS HAINSWORTH (he/him/his) is an actor/writer/director represented by Big Mouth Talent Chicago. He is a DeathScribe winner 2009 for the audio drama "Remembrance" and author of The Fourth Wall, part of Motel 666 (2015).
KATIE MCLEAN HAINSWORTH is a Chicago-based performer/writer, whom you can regularly find on both the DARK NEXUS and FAWX & STALLION podcasts. She's happily guested on HORROR 101 a few times as well as on Roll For Impact's THE STRANGER.
KEVIN MATTHEWS posts a movie review daily on the For It Is Man's Number blog, and is one quarter of the Raiders of the Podcast team who have been putting out weekly episodes for over six years. https://linktr.ee/raidersofthepodcast
RYAN OLSON (aka S. Ravenlord of The Cold Beyond music group) is the owner of Deadspeak Design and Night World Records, as well as a member of the Synapse Films street team and a regular on the Synapse Films podcast. His work has been featured in Liquid Cheese, Horrorhound, & Evilspeak Magazines.
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