In this dynamic "three-way" conversation, Michelle Gines sits down with Shannon Rhodes and Rochinda Pickens to discuss the beautiful process of "becoming."

The episode centers on the concept of the "Leap"—the moment a woman decides to move from dreaming to doing. Shannon and Rochinda pull back the curtain on their partnership during the Faithfully Yours conference, illustrating how a visionary (Rochinda) and an implementer (Shannon) can work in perfect harmony when there is radical trust. From utilizing the "Crown Checker Catalyst Playbook" to the "proud birth mother" moment of seeing lives changed, this episode is a masterclass in leadership, legacy, and taking your first step toward greatness.

Key Discussion Points

• Advice for the Woman on the Edge: Rochinda encourages women to not just leap, but to "enjoy the ride" on the way down.
  • Shannon counters the fear of perfectionism with a "just do it" mantra, explaining how action creates momentum that makes every subsequent step easier.
• The Crown Checker Catalyst: Shannon shares how she integrated the Crown Checker Catalyst Playbook into her Faithfully Yours conference. The key takeaway: The tool is the foundation, but your unique "spin" and identity are what make it transformational.
• The Visionary-Implementer Dynamic: Rochinda describes the rare joy of watching someone else take her vision and run with it. They discuss the "birth mother" feeling of seeing a project succeed through the hands of another trusted leader.
• Building Through Trust: A deep dive into the specific trust required to collaborate at a high level without ego getting in the way.
• The Ease of Consistency: Why doing the hard thing first is the secret to a sustainable and thriving business or ministry.

Are you standing at the edge of your 'becoming'? Listen to Shannon Rhodes and Rochinda Pickens explain why the leap is worth it—and how to build the tribe that will catch you. Stream the full episode now!

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