In this powerful and honest episode of What Are You Made Of?, Mike “C-Roc” sits down with Dr. Toby Brooks, a performance scientist, professor at Baylor, and host of the Becoming UnDone podcast, to explore what it truly means to rise when life, work, and identity start to fall apart.

Toby shares his roots in rural Illinois, the grit and work ethic passed down from his coal miner father, and the formative lessons he learned as an athletic trainer working everywhere from the NFL to middle school sports.

Together, Mike "C-Roc" and Toby dive into the tension between relentless hard work and the often-overlooked power of surrender, using memorable stories about “letting the paint dry,” data versus perception, and why progress isn’t always reflected in the numbers we fixate on.

The conversation expands into health optimization, recovery, ethics in performance enhancement, and how personalized protocols—whether in fitness, nutrition, or life—can unlock sustainable growth.

This episode is a thoughtful blend of science, real-world experience, and raw authenticity, offering listeners practical insight and renewed perspective on how to pursue success without losing themselves in the process.Website- tobybrooksphd.com

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