Tech has looked unstoppable thanks to AI winners—but a huge part of the market is telling a very different story. In this episode, Simon and Dan break down the brutal valuation reset hitting SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) stocks, with many major names down 30–50%+ despite still-solid underlying businesses.

They explain the classic “moats” that made SaaS so powerful—switching costs, ecosystems, and data—and why AI agents and LLM-driven automation are now challenging the seat-based pricing model that many software companies depend on. The discussion moves through a rapid-fire list of well-known SaaS names to unpack what’s driving the drawdowns, where the market may be overreacting, and where the risk of disruption is real.

Bottom line: some of these stocks may be turning into genuine value opportunities—but the old playbook may no longer apply, and investors need to underwrite what the business looks like 2–5 years from now, not what it used to be.

Tickers mentioned: CSU, CRM, ADBE, NOW, ADSK, INTU, TEAM, WDAY, TWLO, DOCU, ADP

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