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In this episode of the Human-First AI Marketing® podcast, Mike Montague sits down with content marketing strategist and fractional CMO Charlie Van Derven to explore a simple but powerful truth: AI can help you scale—but it can’t build trust for you.

Together, they dig into:

• Why high-trust services like financial advising (and any B2B sale that isn’t a click-to-buy) still demand real human connection
• The telltale signs of “AI Slop” and how to avoid sounding robotic online
• How financial advisors and SMBs can use webinars, email, and LinkedIn to nurture prospects without chasing them
• Why content marketing isn’t just about volume—it’s about visibility, voice, and value
• When to automate vs. when to actually start a conversation

Charlie also shares his Perfect Client Playbook approach, how he builds targeted prospect lists that convert over time, and why your CRM might be your most powerful sales weapon—when used with intention.

If your team is stuck posting content that isn’t converting or using AI tools that create more work than results, this conversation is your reset.

Top Takeaways

• AI is a tool, not a replacement for trust.
  You can speed up content creation with AI, but conversions still require a real human relationship—especially in high-stakes industries like finance.
• Human connection becomes your advantage as AI content floods the feed.
  In a world drowning in generic automation, the brands that show up with authentic, thoughtful outreach stand out.
• Webinars are a powerful trust and timing signal.
  When someone signs up and shows up, they’re raising their hand; it’s your cue to engage like a human, not a funnel.
• LinkedIn works best when it’s used to start conversations—not broadcast promotions.
  Charlie emphasized the importance of 1-to-1 engagement: finding a detail in someone’s profile, asking a real question, and building a relationship over time.
• Email marketing still converts—when it’s targeted and consistent.
  A well-built, highly relevant email list outperforms social algorithms every time if you’re showing up with the right message at the right time.
• CRM hygiene is sales enablement.
  Knowing who opened what, when, and how many times helps identify warm leads that even your best rep would otherwise miss.
• Trigger events drive sales—not speed.
  A person may not need your service today, but when life changes (a divorce, business sale, inheritance, etc.), that’s when trust pays off.
• Marketing is part inspiration, part infrastructure.
  AI can help with consistency and coverage, but you still need creative strategy, emotional intelligence, and a point of view to build loyalty.
• Your content must reflect who you are—not just what you do.
  Templated messaging and "prompt packs" break trust. The voice, tone, and context still need to come from you.

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