This aftershow is where theory turns into practice—and suddenly, the fog lifts.

Coming off our conversation with Mónica Guzmán, host, Bill Groner, gathered members of the Positive Connection Initiative (PCI) braintrust, Trevor Fornara (PCI co-founder & board member), and Sahar Emambakhsh (Director of Operations & External Affairs) for our first-ever aftershow roundtable. The three of us unpack what actually makes connection work in the real world: with friends, family, colleagues, and people we deeply disagree with.

If you've ever wondered:

• Why you don't feel fully comfortable talking about politics?
• Whether you're talking less to others about important issues and shrinking your world?
• Why conversations with others often result in a let down rather than an "aha" moment?

The aftershow provides some answers.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why curiosity—not persuasion—is a PRACTICE and the real bridge between people
• How tiny shifts in language unlock trust, nuance, and humanity
• Why engagement through conversation expands your world—and avoidance shrinks it
• How vulnerability and uncertainty change the entire tone of a conversation

This isn't abstract. It's practical, human, and quietly revolutionary.

00:00 Introduction to the After Show

00:42 Diving into Perception Gaps

02:26 The Power of Curiosity

04:43 Complexity in Political Beliefs

10:24 Engagement and Growth

17:02 Practical Tips for Dialogue

17:46 Final Reflections and Takeaways

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