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Part Two – Is Your Ladder Leaning Against the Wrong Wall? | Richard Mobley on Leadership and Calling

In Part Two of this powerful conversation, Richard Mobley dives deeper into what happens when success no longer satisfies — and how leaders can unknowingly climb the wrong ladder.

After decades of corporate advancement, Richard reached a season of fatigue and uncertainty. What followed wasn’t a dramatic “eureka” moment, but a squiggly journey of rediscovery. Through consulting, real estate ventures, and personal reflection, he uncovered a deeper truth: fulfillment isn’t found in constant upward motion — it’s found in alignment.

This episode explores:

• Why the line of success is rarely straight
• How leaders develop a false fear of failure
• The difference between healthcare and healthcare finance
• Why “follow your passion” can be misleading advice
• The Hebrew concept of Avodah — work as worship
• How calling happens at the intersection of gifting and need
• The power of evaluated experience over experience alone

Richard challenges leaders to stop measuring success by Wall Street metrics or cultural expectations. Instead, he invites us to ask:

Is my ladder leaning against the right wall?

During the conversation, Richard references Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s words spoken in Birmingham:

It’s a fitting reminder that calling rarely unfolds in a straight line. Leadership growth is often a squiggle — forward momentum mixed with setbacks, recalibration, and courage. Sometimes the most strategic move a leader can make isn’t climbing faster, but pausing long enough to realign.

If you’ve ever felt successful but unfulfilled, busy but misaligned, or driven but unclear on your deeper why — this conversation will both ground and inspire you.

There is immeasurable joy in making the right difference. The question is: Are you climbing the right wall?

Host: Chris Comeaux, President / CEO of TELEIOS

Guest: Richard Mobley, Founder and Principal of the Seven Four Group, Inc. and the Be Far More! System

The Anatomy of Leadership podcast explores the art and science of leadership through candid, insightful conversations with thought leaders, innovators, and change-makers from a variety of industries. Hosted by Chris Comeaux, each episode dives into the mindsets, habits, and strategies that empower leaders to thrive in complex, fast-changing environments. With topics ranging from organizational culture and emotional intelligence to navigating disruption and inspiring teams, the show blends real-world stories with practical takeaways. The goal is simple yet ambitious: to equip leaders at every level with the tools, perspectives, and inspiration they need to lead with vision, empathy, and impact.

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