A conversation about building a foundation for your business, launching from embodied leadership, and learning to hold the identity of who you’re becoming — even when old stories try to pull you back.

In this episode, I’m joined by Claudia Markovic, an embodiment facilitator and founder of Spiral Into Magic, who works with entrepreneurs to strengthen embodied discernment so their inner authority becomes steady and alive. We explore what it really looks like to build a business rooted in self-trust — and what happens internally when you step into a bigger vision.

What we explored:

• The shift from practitioner → entrepreneur (and why most of us never planned to become business owners)

• How Claudia’s 10+ year journey through Qigong and embodiment shaped the foundation of her work

• Visibility as real work: the emotional labor behind posts, launches, and holding authority

• The hardest part: owning the identity of a leader without collapsing back into old beliefs

• Trauma, worthiness, and the fear of being “too big” or “too important”

• Why seeing others with a similar message is validation — not competition

• The deeper leadership edge: coming together as autonomous leaders instead of isolating

Sustainable leadership isn’t about never falling — it’s about getting back on the horse, refining, and continuing to serve your pocket of people with clarity and courage.

Claudia's Links:

→ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2749477742036081

Sophie's Links:

👁️ Book a Behind the Practice Podcast Conversation: https://calendly.com/sophiecampise/podcast-interview-ren-behind-the-practice

👁️ Learn more about Ren: https://www.ren-wellbeing.com/

👁️ Follow along on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ren.wellbeing/

👁️ Everything else: bio.site/ren.wellbeing

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