In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson speaks with Barnaby Ash and Dru Plumb of Plumb and Ash about their rise from garage woodturning to exhibiting at TEFAF New York. They discuss Greco Roman influences, sculptural wood vessels, working with green oak, embracing cracks and stitch work, targeting high end galleries, and building a profitable craft business through strategy, research and relentless refinement.

Key Topics Covered

• Woodturning and contemporary wood sculpture

• Greco Roman classicism and design history influence

• Storytelling in art and craft practice

• Working with green oak, cracks and natural movement

• Stitching wood vessels and visible mending techniques

• Transition from craft fairs to international art fairs

• Targeting high end galleries and collectors

• Pricing strategy and value in the art market

• Creative partnership and studio roles

• Burnout, pressure and creative flow state

• Building a sustainable craft business in the UK

• Future plans including blacksmithing and workshop expansion

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Key Moments:

00:00 Introduction to Plumb and Ash and their sculptural woodturning

01:06 Greco Roman influences and design research

03:17 Storytelling, symbolism and emotional impact in sculpture

08:46 Starting out with a second hand lathe and garage workshop

16:18 Moving from functional objects to sculptural vessels

17:48 Targeting high end galleries and strategic growth

22:24 Pressure, ambition and creative risk

25:01 Division of roles in a creative partnership

27:32 Working with green oak, cracks and stitched repairs

34:55 Complex sculptural handles and pushing technical limits

38:43 Milestones including Collect, museum acquisitions and TEFAF

51:13 Plans for a new woodland workshop

56:05 Burnout, deadlines and creative obsession

59:51 Making work that feels beyond your own ability

01:00:57 Advice to their eighteen year old selves