In this powerful episode of NXT Chapter, Bishop T.D. Jakes sits down with Priscilla Shirer — New York Times bestselling author, internationally renowned speaker, and actress — for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about faith, grief, purpose, and the chapters that shape who we become.

Priscilla opens up about growing up as the daughter of Pastor Tony Evans, the pressures of the "preacher's kid" fishbowl, and how her mother Lois Evans gave her the freedom to simply be a child. She reflects on losing ten family members in five years, including her beloved mother, and what it truly means to grieve while still believing in God's goodness. Priscilla also shares the shocking discovery of cancer in her lung — just one week after her mother's funeral — and the miraculous story of how she not only survived, but came out breathing at 100% capacity.

The conversation dives into the real work of marriage after 26 years alongside husband and business partner Jerry Shirer, lessons learned from mentors John and Trina Jenkins, and the importance of raising present, grounded sons. Priscilla talks candidly about her unexpected journey into film — from War Room to Overcomer to The Forge — and the values that guide every role she takes. Together, T.D. Jakes and Priscilla explore therapy and faith, the danger of pouring into others while neglecting yourself, learning to say no, and her mother's parting charge: don't drop the baton.

From walking as her love language to the luxury of margin, this episode is a masterclass in grace, grit, and what it looks like to live purposefully — one breath, one step, and one chapter at a time.

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