Robert Armstrong and Sanford Fish are two seasoned lawyer-entrepreneurs who share their journey of building a billion-dollar practice through innovative systems, client relationships, and the embrace of AI. They share insights on leadership, overcoming fears, and the future of legal practices.

Guests Names

Robert Armstrong & Sanford Fish

Resources

American Academy of Estate Planning Attorneys - https://www.aaepa.com/

The EMyth Attorney - https://amzn.to/4wb1wSX

Time Stamps

00:00 — Systems, character, and the law firm model

00:36 — Introducing the guests and the Academy story

01:14 — Building a law practice around systems

03:15 — Combining legal services with wealth management

05:03 — The real calling card: transforming lives

07:55 — Vegas boot camps and the “money back” trust play

10:16 — Leadership, integrity, and doing what you say

12:03 — Failure, grit, and being “three feet from gold”

15:56 — Helping thousands and spotting future success

22:01 — The books, the audience, and the enterprise model

25:18 — Why law is really a relationship business

27:22 — AI in law: fear vs opportunity

33:22 — How to connect with the Academy

35:43 — Advice to their younger selves

39:34 — Mentors, books, and lifelong learning

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