Speaking to planners in New Zealand, Chuck Marohn connects the country’s adopted infrastructure plan with a global pattern of cities that have grown themselves into insolvency. He traces the shift from incremental, pre‑Depression neighborhoods to postwar sprawl and explores what it looks like for planners to stop chasing the next expansion and start making better use of what’s already built.

• Te Waihanga (Site)
• Te Waihanga National Infrastructure Plan (Site)
• Chuck Marohn (Substack)

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Good arguments fail when they ignore how people feel. Chuck Marohn and Joshua Bandoch talk through using empathy, ethical persuasion, and values-based stories with everyone from public works directors to concerned residents. Their examples reveal why understanding fears and incentives often matters more than another chart or study.

• Joshua Bandoch (LinkedIn)
• How to Get What You Want (Book)
• How to be more persuasive (Tedx Talk)
• Joshua Bandoch (Site)
• Chuck Marohn (Substack)

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Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally. They look at incremental developers, neighborhood groups, and the limits of top-down systems in cities like Kansas City. Along the way, they wrestle with incentives, housing, and how much order a city actually needs.

• Kevin Klinkenberg (LinkedIn)
• The Messy City Podcast (Spotify)
• The Messy City (Substack)
• The Messy City (Site)
• Chuck Marohn (Substack)

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