Episodes

  • The Zen Lobbyist How Presence Became Gary Jacobs’ Greatest Policy Tool
    Jan 21 2026

    In this episode of The HumanUp Imperative, host Rex Wallace sits down with Gary Jacobs, longtime healthcare lobbyist, proud dad and grandpa, and author of The Zen Lobbyist, to unpack why presence, compassion, and silence can be as persuasive as any talking point on Capitol Hill.
    From Gary’s early days shaping Medicare policy and navigating the intensity of Washington, to the health scares that forced him to confront stress head-on, we explore how a “hyper-executive” life can pull you out of yourself and how mindfulness practices can bring you back. Along the way, Gary makes the case that members of Congress and policy leaders are not just decision-makers. They are humans first. When advocacy becomes relationship-driven instead of transactional, influence changes shape.
    We cover:
    🧘 Mindfulness in the pressure cooker: why “silence is strategy, compassion is influence, and gratitude is renewal” reframes what effective advocacy looks like in DC.
    🩺 Patient first, then mindful patient: panic attacks, anxiety, a blood clot, and a stroke scare that Gary did not recognize in real time, and how those moments rewired his priorities.
    🌿 The pivot point: biofeedback, the Chopra Center, and how Gary embraced meditation and yoga as a holistic operating system, not just a wellness hobby.
    📦 Box breathing as a real-world tool: the simple four-count method that helps you walk into high-stakes meetings calmer, clearer, and less reactive when life is happening at the same time.
    🤝 Human connection beats transactions: why relationships built on authenticity outlast check-writing influence, and how being a trusted translator of “truth on the ground” shapes better policy.
    🧭 The vision: a primary-care-led “dream team” model for every American that includes clinicians, behavioral health, navigators, home care, nutrition, and even yoga and meditation support, powered by analytics but anchored in dignity.
    ⚖️ Value-based care beyond the triple aim: how equity and workforce wellbeing fit into the future, why payment reform alone is not enough, and why slogans do not change incentives.
    💥 Leading through loss: Gary’s most helpful failure, losing what he built and rebuilding with intention, courage, and authenticity.
    📚 Rapid fire: the one book he returns to repeatedly, the belief that grounds execution, and the reminder that presence is not a tactic. It is a gift.
    ✨ One way to human up: stop rehearsing life, stop clinging to certainty, and practice being present so you can meet people as humans, not roles.

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    47 mins
  • 2025 Wrap Up
    Dec 9 2025

    In the final episode of 2025, Rex looks back on a transformative year of The Human Up Imperative—revisiting each conversation, spotlighting standout moments, and sharing his favorite quotes and takeaways from every guest. He highlights the books and resources that shaped the year’s dialogue and unpacks the themes that surfaced repeatedly across episodes.

    At the heart of this year-end reflection is the reminder that human connection is the throughline of every story told and every insight shared. Rex closes out 2025 with gratitude, inspiration, and a renewed commitment to helping leaders “human up” as they head into the year ahead.

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    19 mins
  • Serving with Dignity - The Human Side of Hunger and Purpose with Rick Whitted
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode of The HumanUp Imperative, host Rex Wallace sits down with Rick Whitted, 30-year “recovering banker” turned CEO of US Hunger, to explore what it really means to restore dignity in healthcare and community work. From losing everything as a young entrepreneur with a pregnant wife and two small kids, to leading a national nonprofit that treats food as a doorway into people’s stories, Rick unpacks why you can’t human up anyone you haven’t first given voice.

    We follow his journey from proud, never-failed banker to a leader who has stared at a pantry box on his own kitchen table—and built an entire model of care around that moment of quiet, complicated shame and relief. Along the way, Rex and Rick make a provocative case: we don’t have a disengaged population, we have an unengaged one—and the difference is everything.

    We cover:
    🍽 “It’s never about food”: why almost 92% of people US Hunger serves are juggling 2–5 overlapping gaps (not just food), and how food becomes the safest, most flexible social determinant—and the perfect on-ramp to deeper conversations.

    🗣 Dignity as voice: how starting with a private, judgment-free conversation (“the bots don’t gossip”) gives people control of their own story, and why you can’t claim dignity, respect, or “human up” if you haven’t listened first.

    📊 The hidden hungry: what US Hunger’s real-time data reveals about the “working, insured, food-insecure” class, why benefits or income disruptions push them over the edge, and how the SNAP/WIC shutdown scare surfaced a vulnerable population that doesn’t show up on paper.

    🏥 Health plans, supplemental benefits & missed ROI: why the failure isn’t offering food and other benefits—it’s deploying them as transactions with no engagement strategy—and how converting food into an incentive for engagement changes quality and Stars math.

    🤝 Community-based orgs as trust brokers: how US Hunger embeds with case management and community teams so members can connect with the plan through a trusted CBO, and why “food is engagement” is more than a tagline when it’s wired into Z codes, SNOMED, and real outcomes.

    🏠 “You can’t treat strangers better than your own house”: inside US Hunger’s culture practices—team syncs, quarterly “recharges,” Gallup surveys, and radical manager accountability—and why Rick insists the ethos for member dignity must start with how you treat your employees.

    💥 The cardboard box moment: Rick’s most helpful personal failure—losing his business after 9/11, staring at that pantry box from his grandmother and aunts, crying alone in the bathroom—and how that experience shaped his empathy for people who would never ask for help.

    💸 The hardest call he ever made: choosing not to furlough two-thirds of his staff in 2020, burning through cash and clawing back over years instead—and how that decision rewired the organization’s trust, fear level, and loyalty.

    📚 Books & anchors: Rick’s own book Outgrow Your Space at Work on how we emotionally translate our careers, plus the daily role of faith and devotionals in “saving his humanity from himself.”

    One way to human up: stop diagnosing people—and organizations—before you’ve listened. Start inside your own walls, one manager and one conversation at a time, and design every engagement so it quietly tells the person in front of you: you have a voice, and it matters here.

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    54 mins
  • Pea Soup and Patient Experience A Conversation with Rich Schwartz
    Nov 11 2025

    In this deeply human episode of The HumanUp Imperative, host Rex Wallace sits down with Rich Schwartz, filmmaker turned pharma CX strategist, WebMD alum, patient advocate, dog and horse whisperer, to unpack why trust and reciprocity function like clinical variables. From Rich’s roots documenting health in Appalachia to his work redesigning experiences across pharma, devices, and diagnostics, we explore how patients end up swimming in “pea soup” with providers, payers, PBMs, pharmacies, and public programs and what it takes to restore clarity, compassion, and outcomes.
    We cover:
    🧪 “Experiences of medicine”: why expectations plus realities equal outcomes, and how trust, reciprocity, and compassion (think Compassionomics, The Rabbit Effect, The Wonder Drug) measurably improve adherence and healing.
    🧭 Rich’s arc: storyteller in Appalachia, then WebMD, then life sciences CX; the personal health crisis that humbled him and reframed his mission.
    🥣 “Pea soup,” explained: how misaligned incentives across patients, providers, payers, PBMs, pharmacies, and public programs create friction, and why the patient P too often loses.
    •💊 At the counter: a plain-English tour of WAC, rebates, PBMs, wholesalers, and 340B spreads, plus Rich’s call for transparency that benefits the actual human paying $100 at the pharmacy.
    📺 DTC reality check: massive TV ad spend vs. meaningful patient support, what “67% took an action” leaves out, and how to redirect budget into real experience programs.
    🧑‍⚕️ From sales rep to “resolution rep”: easing practice burden to fight clinician burnout and protect the one thing doctors value most, the relationship with patients.
    🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Teach people to be effective patients: self-advocacy, the right to “fire” a misaligned clinician, and Rich’s favorite acronym: GAS (Gives A Sh*t).
    📈 The Helpfulness Index: Rich’s metric for manufacturers and teams, are you actually showing up helpful to patients and providers, within compliance.
    🌄 Awe and moral beauty: why witnessing humans help humans changes us; book picks including Dacher Keltner’s Awe, Harari’s Sapiens, and Unreasonable Hospitality.
    💼 Leading through loss: layoffs, letting go, and the courage to publish; imposter syndrome, children’s stories, and why dogs and horses keep us honest.
    ✨ One way to human up: design for fewer negative moments since they outweigh positives, then obsess over small, repeatable acts of helpfulness that clearly signal we give a sh*t.

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    50 mins
  • Unacknowledged Grief: The Losses We Don’t Talk About, and How to Heal
    Oct 10 2025

    👉 Unacknowledged Grief: The Losses We Don’t Talk About, and How to Heal

    In this deeply human episode of The HumanUp Imperative, host Rex Wallace sits down with Dr. Saba Syed, pharmacist, healthcare leader, mom, and TEDx speaker, to explore a topic most of us never discuss but nearly all of us experience: unacknowledged grief.

    From the seismic shift of a child’s autism diagnosis to the quiet ache of job loss or estranged relationships, Dr. Syed shares how grief that isn’t publicly recognized can shape our lives, and how naming it is the first step toward healing.

    We cover:

    • 🌱 What “disenfranchised” or unacknowledged grief really is and why it’s so often overlooked.
    • 🧭 Saba’s personal journey navigating her son’s autism diagnosis, career changes, and the hidden grief they brought.
    • 🪶 The ASMR framework: Acknowledge, Seek support, Mourn, and Ritualize, practical steps to process grief that society doesn’t see.
    • 🧑‍💼 What leaders should watch for: subtle signs your team may be struggling, and how to create psychologically safe spaces at work.
    • ❤️ How authenticity, empathy, and even small rituals can transform how we support ourselves and others through loss.
    • ✨ Why you’re never really done grieving, and how that truth can set you free.
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    37 mins
  • S1E5-Human Connection In A Brutal Job Market Part 2
    Sep 16 2025

    👉 Job Seeking in 2025, Part 2: Inside the Hiring Room: What Recruiters & Leaders Want You to Know

    In today’s episode of The HumanUp Imperative, host Rex Wallace flips the lens to the people connecting candidates to opportunities. He’s joined by Jamie Masters (Senior Director of Recruiting, Executive Staffing Solutions), Timshel Tarbet (former Chief Healthcare Experience & Equity Officer), and Jeff Grant (President & Founder, Schedule F Healthcare Strategies) to share what truly stands out and what quietly sinks you in this market.
    These leaders bring deep experience across healthcare quality, equity, HR/recruiting, and Medicare/Medicaid programs, and they get candid about how hiring really works in 2025.

    We cover:
    The new normal in hiring: return-to-office/hybrid expectations, tighter comp ranges, and longer interview cycles.
    What makes candidates pop: referrals, results-driven resumes, org-specific prep, strong follow-through, and a clean, professional virtual presence.
    Bias-aware applications: why to skip headshots, be smart about dates, and highlight outcomes over duties.
    Networking that actually moves the needle: relationship-first habits on and off LinkedIn, and how to ask for help without feeling awkward.
    How to support job seekers: don’t ghost, check in on the human behind the resume, offer introductions, and create psychologically safe spaces.
    Mindset for the long haul: why rejection ≈ redirection, how making progress builds hope, and why kindness matters on both sides of the screen.

    📌 Chapters:
    0:00 – Introduction
    1:20 – Meet the panel: Jamie, Timshel, and Jeff
    6:00 – The 2025 job market: hybrid, comp ranges, and slower hiring cycles
    12:00 – What candidates often get wrong (and how to stand out)
    18:30 – Networking, referrals, and the courage to ask for help
    25:00 – Resumes: outcomes vs. job descriptions
    32:00 – Virtual presence, interviews, and avoiding hidden bias
    39:30 – How to support job seekers: what helps vs. what hurts
    46:00 – Mindset shifts: rejection, resilience, and hope
    50:00 – Rapid-fire: book recommendations & final advice
    Whether you’re searching, supporting someone who is, or hiring in healthcare, this conversation delivers practical tactics and honest truths to navigate a tough market with clarity and heart.

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    53 mins
  • S1 E5 Human Connection In A Brutal Job Market Part 1
    Sep 10 2025

    Job Seeking in 2025: Real Stories, Real Struggles, and How to Help

    In today’s episode of The HumanUp Imperative*, host **Rex Wallace* sits down with *Deb Dorsch* and *Burn Orton* to explore what it’s really like to job hunt in today’s tough employment market.

    Both guests bring decades of experience in **healthcare quality, compliance, learning and development, and Medicare/Medicaid programs**—and both are navigating career transitions after major organizational downsizing.

    We cover:

    • The reality of today’s **job search process**: applications, ghosting, and burnout.
    • How to cope with rejection, uncertainty, and financial stress.
    • The role of *networking, mentorship, and psychologically safe spaces* in finding new roles.
    • How friends, colleagues, and employers can actually help during this season.
    • The emotional rollercoaster of unemployment—and why resilience and hope matter.

    Whether you’re currently seeking employment, supporting someone who is, or working in HR/recruiting, this conversation offers *practical insights and emotional truths* about navigating career disruption in 2025.

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    45 mins
  • S1 E4 Trust- The Connective Tissue of Healthcare Trust
    Aug 19 2025

    Welcome to Episode 4 of The HumanUp Imperative, a podcast about re-centering human connection in a healthcare industry that too often sidelines it.
    In this episode, host Rex Wallace speaks with Amber Maraccini, healthcare practice lead at Medallia and a passionate advocate for making healthcare more human. Drawing from professional expertise and personal experience, Amber shares how trust is the “connective tissue” of authentic human connection in healthcare, and why it is essential for both patients and organizations.
    In this episode, we explore:
    • What trust really means in healthcare and why it is foundational to safety, belonging, and self-actualization
    • How trust operates on a spectrum and can be built or eroded through everyday interactions
    • The measurable link between trust, loyalty, and better health outcomes
    • The hidden ways trust is lost, including delays, unanswered questions, and missed opportunities for connection
    • How to identify “silent signals” of eroding trust through unstructured data, contact center insights, and patient interactions
    • The role of AI in improving efficiency and freeing humans to focus on high-impact connection points
    • The connection between employee experience and customer experience, and why culture and empowerment drive trust at every level
    • Practical steps health plans can take today to build trust, including leadership listening, closing feedback loops, and empowering frontline staff
    Whether you are a healthcare leader, a provider, or someone interested in strengthening relationships in a high-stakes environment, this episode offers clear insights on how trust drives better engagement, stronger outcomes, and more human care.

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    25 mins