In this two-part episode, Dr. Christina Zampitella sits down with licensed marriage and family therapist Marcus Scarfo for an open and heartfelt conversation about what it’s like to grieve the loss of a grandparent — particularly when that grandparent played a central, stabilizing role in the family. Marcus shares the story of his grandfather’s death and how it quietly unraveled parts of his identity, relationships, and sense of emotional safety. Together, they explore how grief shows up in adult grandchildren, how family systems shift after a loss, and why the death of a grandparent is often underestimated or overlooked. This episode invites reflection on the layers of grief, the importance of rituals, and the subtle ways we search for emotional grounding when we lose someone who once provided it.

Chapters 00:00 – Welcome and episode overview 01:02 – Introducing guest: Marcus Scarfo, LMFT 02:25 – What made Marcus’s grandfather so special 04:20 – How grief hit differently as an adult 06:10 – Recognizing secondary losses after death 08:40 – Family roles and dynamics shifting 10:50 – The emotional undercurrent of stability and safety 13:30 – Disenfranchised grief around grandparents 15:00 – The complexity of letting go of family traditions 17:25 – Navigating grief as a therapist 19:00 – How Marcus’s grief impacted his work and relationships 21:12 – Closing reflections and what’s coming in Part 2

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