In this spacious, and deeply nourishing conversation, Laura is joined by leadership coach Nancy Larocca Hedley to explore the subtle art of completion, discernment, and listening to the body as a source of truth. Nancy brings wisdom from the world's spiritual traditions to her work with leaders, team facilitation, and leading in her community.

Together they reflect on how endings are not failures, but sacred thresholds, portals into the next chapter of becoming. From leaving long-held roles and relationships, to closing chapters at work, to making space for creativity, rest, and truth, Nancy shares how honorable closure has become one of her most powerful spiritual and leadership practices.

They talk about discomfort as a doorway, the difference between mental resistance and bodily knowing, the courage to have crucial conversations, and why our lives so often unfold through the unexpected rather than the planned.

This episode is a gentle invitation to slow down, notice what is complete, and trust what is quietly asking to be born.

• What You’ll Hear in This EpisodeHow Nancy learned to trust her body as her primary compass
• A powerful story of leaving Yahoo after a series of life signs
• The subtle signals that tell us when something is no longer ours to do
• The Enneagram as a tool for liberation rather than identity
• Laura and Nancy’s reflections on the “helper” archetype and self-care
• Why discomfort is often the doorway to freedom
• Letting go of caffeine, alcohol, and habits that no longer serve the body
• The difference between being busy and being available

Resources & Links

The Yamas (particularly non-stealing / right use of energy)The Enneagram (as a tool for ego awareness and freedom)Yoga philosophy and Kriya Yoga lineage (Yogananda, Roy Eugene Davis, Ellen Grace O’Brien)

Visit www.surrenderingtothesigns.com

Music Featured

The music in each episode of Surrendering to the Signs has been carefully curated to enhance the episode, below is a list of all tracks featured.

List of Music

Easy to Love - Instrumental Version _Song by Saggie

Fold _Song by nuer self

Echoes of the Forest _Song by Thomas Ben Tov

Wakening_Song by Shai-li Paldi

Were Looking Up_Song by Chris Mason

Almanac_Song by Seth Parson

Same Side - No Lead Vocals_Song by Lemon J