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168: Real Growth Happens Outside the Numbers

168: Real Growth Happens Outside the Numbers

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This is a candid year-in-review episode focused less on wins and more on evolution. Tony and Jordan unpack the moments that forced them to grow: larger projects, higher stakes, constant problems, and the realization that the next level requires different people, systems, and discipline.

They talk openly about calm under pressure, thinking bigger, investing in health, and why the right team matters more than perfect timing.


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