In this episode, Christopher Smith and Joe Mattia sit down with Raghav Gulati (CEO of CoinList) and Arjun Khemani for a fast-moving conversation about building, learning, consciousness, technology, and the future of human intelligence.

They explore how curiosity compounds, why practical skills matter more than ever, how to think clearly in a noisy world, and how to build systems — educational, technological, economic — that actually scale human potential.

This episode dives deep into network schools, startup societies, crypto infrastructure, consciousness, programming reality, and the psychology of growth.

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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Opening: What Network School unlocked

02:00 – Teaching practical skills vs traditional curriculum

05:00 – Curiosity, learning speed & compounding intelligence

08:00 – Consciousness, perception & programming reality

11:00 – How to think clearly in a noisy world

15:00 – Education, contribution & building meaningful communities

19:00 – Crypto infrastructure & the future of digital economies

23:00 – Technology, incentives & scalable governance

27:00 – Why personal agency matters in a programmable world

31:00 – The future of networks, freedom & human potential