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2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.

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Careers Economics Personal Success Self-Help Success
Episodes
  • Ep12: How Flower Farming Brought Growth with Dr. Alanna Messner-Scholl
    Feb 13 2026

    It’s almost Valentine’s Day, and who better to bring onto the show than our own wedding florist Alanna Messner-Scholl? In this fun reunion, we talk with Alanna about her career pivot from PhD-trained clinical psychologist to running her own florist business, Waverly Flower Co, with a focus on sustainable business practices in the wedding industry. Alanna shares her story about finding confidence as a flower farmer, and how becoming a mom gave her the motivation to explore new directions.

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    You can learn more about our guest at:

    https://waverlyflowerco.com/

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    41 mins
  • Ep11: How Weightlifting Builds Courage with Dr. Kristin Harlow
    Jan 30 2026

    In this conversation, we speak with Dr. Kristin Harlow, a former academic and policy evaluator-turned-weightlifting trainer. We learn from Kristin about her lifelong love for athletics and how she’s building a community for women in strength-training, as well as how she mustered up the courage to leap out of academic research and start her own garage gym.

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    Resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Misfit Strength (Columbus, OH)
    • Haven Collective (Columbus, OH)
    • "The Untold Story of Mattie Rogers" (documentary)

    You can learn more about our guest at:

    @harlowgarage

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    34 mins
  • Ep10: How Letting Go Leads to Authenticity with April Lee
    Jan 16 2026

    In this episode, we have a wide-ranging conversation about a personal search for meaning. A former government employee, April Lee speaks with us about how she left her job to explore creative crafts, reconnect with herself, and gain the confidence to build her own data visualization consultancy.

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    Resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Everything is Figureoutable, Marie Forleo
    • Self-Compassion, Kristin Neff
    • The Gifts of Imperfection, Brené Brown
    • Setting Boundaries Will Set You Free, Nancy Agmon-Levin
    • Awakening Intuition, Mona Lisa Schultz
    • You are a Bad-Ass, Jennifer Sincero
    • You are a Bad-Ass at Making Money, Jennifer Sincero
    • Living in the Light, Shakti Gawain

    You can learn more about our guest at:

    leeaprstudios.com

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    33 mins
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