In the third episode of the Moved podcast, the tables are turned.

Guest host Mishal Noor interviews Gary Watts, founder and host of Moved.

Gary shares the story behind the podcast, why he believes obstacles define us and how his journey through coaching, leadership and change led to founding Obstackl.

The conversation explores Gary’s career background, his approach to coaching and transformation, and why he believes obstacles are defining moments. Mishal draws out reflections on leadership, curiosity and the future vision for Moved.



• Consulting at its best attracts the brightest minds and leaves lasting capability.
• Purpose is personal and powerful when aligned with your work.
• The UN SDGs remain a work of art and a source of inspiration despite headwinds.
• Obstacles can shape us even more than successes.
• Values are observational not aspirational and you need to not do the opposite.
• The idea for Moved grew from a desire to highlight stories of change and resilience.
• Collaboration and dialogue sit at the heart of Gary’s work.
• The future of Moved is about amplifying diverse voices and perspectives.

• "Purpose comes first, the vision comes second, the strategy comes after, then the people."
• "You become, usually stronger, as a result of obstacles."
• "Painting a picture of where you're going, is really, really important."
• "People rightly hold you to high standards and values. When you come to them, you have to really mean it."
• "It's a basic human need, to feel safe."
• "Moved is on one level factual and exploratory, on another level, emotional."

• 00:00 – Introduction & Role Reversal
• 02:23 – Gary’s Background and Early Influences
• 05:00 – Consulting and the Origins of Obstackl
• 08:37 – Purpose and Alignment
• 11:35 – The Power of the UN SDGs
• 15:16 – The Story Behind the Name Obstackl
• 17:52 – The Hardest Obstacles in Gary’s Professional Journey
• 20:19 – Navigating People and Change
• 23:31 – Which of the 17 SDGs Resonates Most
• 25:48 – The Aim for the Podcast
• 27:04 – Closing Comments with Mishal

• Obstackl Website: [obstackl.com]
• Gary Watts on LinkedIn: [linkedin.com/in/garywatts]
• Moved Website :[movedpod.com]