In this episode, we chat with Shaina Siber, LCSW, who is a therapist, author, and host of the Affirming Minds podcast. This was a very refreshing and honest conversation! We really didn't want this to be another typical conversation that includes telling you to "do more yoga". (Although I know this can be a healthy practice, it can't solve all your problems.) We dive into the real systemic, environmental, and individual factors that impact burnout, including capitalism, inadequate pay, moral injury, people-pleasing, and perfectionism. This conversation is meant for social workers at all levels to notice warning signs, critically analyze the issue, and learn tips for how to manage burnout.

We chat about:

• Key burnout symptoms, including ones that are often missed in high performers
• Why inadequate pay is an underacknowledged driver of burnout
• Individual factors that increase burnout risk: people-pleasing, perfectionism, and high empathy
• The six-step burnout recovery framework from Shaina's book
• The problem with asking job candidates "What do you do for self-care?"
• What employers and leaders can do to create burnout-protective workplaces
• Shaina's advice for anyone currently in the thick of burnout

Resources mentioned:

• Using ACT and CFT for Burnout Recovery: The Beyond Burnout Blueprint
• Affirming Minds CE Podcast

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