In this episode, we finish our conversation with C-Famous and discuss: What does Juneteenth really mean in 2025? Is it actually becoming a federal holiday, can it carry real weight in America? And when power is paraded down Pennsylvania Avenue, what message does that send?

We’re unpacking history, politics, and AMERICAN culture — not to settle the argument, but to sharpen the question: What are we really building, and who is it for?

In Part 2 of our conversation, I’m joined again by author Christopher “C-Famous” Fane as we expand the dialogue into deeper territory. We get into real talk about jail, the judicial system, and the revolving door of recidivism—while also examining how social narratives shape public perception and personal identity.

Christopher shares insights on his upcoming book and how it can help shift culture. We also explore the importance of creating space for understanding in a world marked by division—diving into topics of racism, race relations, God, religion, and politics.

This episode is about truth-telling, bridge-building, and staying grounded in humanity while holding space for complexity.

On the podcast, I have the pleasure of welcoming Chris "C-Famous" Fane, a poet from Wisconsin's capital. He's a thoughtful and insightful individual with a unique perspective on many things. We talk about life from his perspective as a Black man, challenges he's faced, how he overcame those challenges, and re-establishing himself in society, and more. Chris is not just a poet—he's also an author, and his work speaks to the depth of his creativity.