In this episode, Jesse Michels joins me to break down the recent back and forth between Barack Obama and Donald Trump on aliens and UFOs, and what it really means when former and current presidents speak publicly about the phenomenon.

We react in real time to the President’s latest tweet and unpack whether this is political theater, strategic signaling, or something much deeper.

Jesse also shares a never been told story involving Harold Malmgren

Ross Coulthart Joins Area 52 for one of the most candid conversations we’ve ever had.

In this episode, we go deep into the legacy retrieval and reverse-engineering program, congressional oversight failures, secret space program rumors, and the ethical implications of downing unidentified craft. Ross discusses speaking with over a dozen insiders connected to classified aerospace programs, the existence of a control group operating across private contractors, and the possibility that some members of Congress have been quietly “read in.”

We revisit historic cases like the 1978 Kaikōura incident and Westall 1966, explore the secrecy surrounding waived special access programs (WUSAPs), and confront one of the most disturbing questions of all:

If we have recovered craft… have we also killed the beings inside?

Ross also opens up about the most difficult information he’s ever received, the emotional weight of protecting sources, and why he believes disclosure may not come in the way people expect.

We close with audience questions — including what Ross would ask an extraterrestrial intelligence if given the chance.

This is not entertainment. This is an attempt to understand one of the most consequential stories in human history.

If you value serious conversations about UAP, non-human intelligence, government secrecy, and the future of humanity, you’re in the right place.

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In 1959, a man allegedly walked into the Pentagon… and claimed he wasn’t from here.His name was Valiant Thor.In this episode, we dive deep into Stranger at the Pentagon by Dr. Frank E. Stranges , the controversial book that tells the story of an extraterrestrial being who supposedly advised U.S. officials for three years during the height of the Cold War.According to Stranges, Valiant Thor came from Venus.He looked completely human.He had no fingerprints.No pulse.An IQ reportedly off the charts.And access to technology that defied physics.