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After The Fall Show

After The Fall Show

Written by: Icarus (Dean Cooper)
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What happens after everything breaks?

Most podcasts show you the “after” photo.


After The Fall takes you into the wreckage.

After The Fall Show is a mental health, life and recovery podcast hosted by Icarus — founder of Street Therapy and survivor of addiction, mental and physical breakdown and much more — exploring what it really takes to fall, rebuild, and create a life that can actually sustain and thrive.


If you’re tired of toxic positivity, suffering from pain, loss, mental health and surface-level inspiration, you’re in the right place.

We don’t do highlight reels. We do "truth". We do raw. But most of all. We Do Human. Everyone deserves to be seen.

One show. Two ways to rebuild:

The Main Show — The Battle


Unfiltered conversations with people who have lived through collapse. We explore the fall, the turning point, and the grit it takes to take your life back.


After Dark — The Blueprint

From story to strategy. Exploring the psychology, philosophy, and lived-experience behind real change through the Street Therapy framework.


This is for you if you’ve faced:

Addiction & recovery

Trauma, grief, and burnout

Neurodivergence and identity loss

Mental or physical breakdown

The reality of rebuilding — and sustaining change

Nothing is off limits — because real life doesn’t have a filter.


This isn’t about pretending everything is fine.


It’s about building something that can actually hold.

You are not alone in the wreckage.


Follow After The Fall Show for raw conversations about falling, rebuilding, and rising again.

Guest submissions:

www.afterthefallshow.com

Street Therapy: - About the founder, the street therapy approach and more.

www.streettherapy.co.uk

TikTok: - Daily philosophy, motivation, coaching and support

@Icarus_Works_UK

2026 Icarus (Dean Cooper)
Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • Mental Health, Recovery and Honest Support | Paul Reeve (CEO, Cornwall Mind) After Dark
    Apr 24 2026

    Not all support looks like what you think it does.


    In this episode of After The Fall: After Dark, I sit down with Paul Reeve, CEO of Cornwall Mind, for a grounded, honest conversation about what mental health recovery actually looks like — beyond labels, beyond quick fixes, and beyond the idea that someone else can “fix” you.


    This isn’t theory.

    This is how it really works.


    From Paul’s own journey through burnout and rebuilding, to leading one of the most important mental health organisations in the region, we explore what support truly means — and why recovery is something you have to take ownership of, even when you’re being helped.


    We break down how Mind operates, the difference between national and local services, and the reality behind funding, access, and expectations.

    More importantly, we talk about people.

    The human side of support.
    The misconceptions that stop people reaching out.
    And the simple truths that actually make a difference.


    If you’ve ever felt unsure about asking for help — or expected someone else to fix things for you — this episode will shift your perspective and help remove the uncertainty about getting support from this wonderful organisation and those like it.

    What we cover:

    • What mental health “recovery” really means
    • Why support doesn’t mean being fixed
    • The role of self-agency in getting better
    • How organisations like Mind actually operate
    • The biggest misconceptions about mental health services
    • Why community, connection, and activity matter
    • The reality of funding and service limitations
    • Why early support for children is critical
    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction
    After Dark format and meeting Paul Reeve

    01:00 – Paul’s Personal Journey
    From struggling himself to entering mental health work

    03:30 – Frontline Work and Burnout
    Compassion fatigue and stepping into leadership

    05:30 – Understanding “Mind”
    National vs local Mind and how the system works

    08:30 – What Recovery Actually Means
    Why mental health isn’t “fixed vs broken”

    10:30 – Ownership and Self-Agency
    Why no one can do the work for you

    12:30 – Group-Based Support
    Why activity-led environments work better than expected

    15:00 – One-to-One Support
    Coaching models and building independence

    17:00 – Misconceptions About Services
    Why people expect to be “fixed”

    20:00 – Funding and Limitations
    The reality behind what services can provide

    21:30 – Meaningful Impact Moments
    What real success looks like inside the service

    25:00 – If Funding Was Unlimited
    Why investing in children matters most

    26:30 – The Reading Room
    A safe space for connection, community, and conversation

    30:30 – Final Message: Be Kinder
    A simple principle that changes everything

    Guest:

    Paul Reeve is the CEO of Cornwall Mind, part of the wider Mind network supporting mental health across the UK. His work focuses on community-based recovery, self-agency, and building support systems that empower people to move forward.

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    35 mins
  • Narcissism, Losing Yourself and Finding Your Way Back | Jodi Pavlock
    Apr 24 2026

    Not all damage is visible.


    In this episode of After The Fall Show, I’m joined by Jodi Pavlock, who shares her lived experience of surviving narcissistic relationships — and what it really means to lose your identity inside them.


    From love bombing and control to isolation and emotional erosion, this conversation explores how narcissistic abuse develops, why it’s so hard to see while you’re in it, and what it actually takes to break free.


    Jodi speaks openly about the reality behind these relationships — the confusion, the self-doubt, the trauma bonding — and the difficult process of rebuilding yourself once you walk away.


    This isn’t a polished or perfect story. It’s a real one.

    If you’ve ever questioned yourself in a relationship, felt like you were losing who you are, or struggled to understand why leaving isn’t as simple as it sounds — this conversation will resonate.

    What we cover:
    • The early signs of narcissistic behaviour
    • Love bombing, control, and identity erosion
    • Trauma bonding and emotional addiction
    • Why leaving isn’t the “easy fix” people think
    • Hitting rock bottom and rebuilding from it
    • Finding your value again after losing yourself
    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction
    Setting the scene: narcissism, identity, and survival

    00:20 – Life Before Awareness
    Who Jodi was before recognising something was wrong

    01:00 – Early Signs of Narcissism
    Love bombing, control, and subtle criticism

    03:15 – The “Sniff Test”
    Key warning signs people often miss early on

    05:20 – Identity Loss & Control
    How narcissists strip away self-worth

    06:50 – When It Starts Getting Worse
    The shift from charm to consistent devaluation

    08:30 – Public vs Private Abuse
    How behaviour escalates and becomes visible

    11:20 – Danger & Escalation
    Moments where things cross into real risk

    13:00 – The Breaking Point
    When leaving becomes inevitable

    16:30 – Trauma Bonding Explained
    Why it feels like addiction, not just love

    19:10 – Recovery Isn’t Instant
    The reality after leaving — rock bottom first

    22:30 – Rebuilding Life
    Writing the book, finding direction again

    24:00 – Can Narcissists Change?
    The truth about personality vs hope

    25:45 – Advice for Others
    What to watch for and how to protect yourself

    27:00 – Finding Your Value Again
    Identity, growth, and moving forward

    Guest:

    Jodi Pavlock is the author of Jekyll Can’t Hide, a book based on her lived experience with narcissistic abuse and recovery.
    Book Link:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jekyll-Cant-Hyde-Jodi-Pavlock-ebook/dp/B0DQ973ZFQ

    Final thought:

    You don’t lose your value.
    Sometimes it just gets buried under someone else’s control.
    But it is still your's to own and there is life after survival.

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    30 mins
  • Dyslexia, Trauma and Learning to Thrive | Ellen Busch
    Apr 16 2026

    What happens when a child is told they are broken before life has even properly begun?

    In this episode of After The Fall Show, I sit down with Ellen Busch for a powerful conversation about dyslexia, bullying, low self-worth, trauma, healing, and what it means to rebuild a life after being written off by the systems meant to support you.


    Ellen shares how her dyslexic journey began in childhood, how the education system underestimated her, and how those early messages shaped her confidence, identity, and sense of worth for years to come. We talk about being treated as less than, surviving school while carrying labels that were never truly yours, and the long shadow those experiences can cast across adult life.

    But this episode is not just about dyslexia in school.

    It is also about what happens later, when low self-esteem becomes a doorway for harmful people, toxic relationships, and deeper emotional damage. Ellen opens up about stalkers, narcissistic abuse, reaching a breaking point, and the surrender moment that began her journey back to herself.

    We also explore healing, self-discovery, the five-mountain approach to growth, and how recovery can move beyond survival into something stronger — a life of confidence, purpose, and thriving.

    In this episode we explore:

    - dyslexia and childhood school experiences

    - bullying, shame, and being written off early

    - low self-worth and long-term emotional impact

    - predators, narcissistic abuse, and survival

    - surrender, recovery, and rebuilding confidence

    - self-discovery, healing, and thriving after trauma

    - why dyslexia can also be a strength


    If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, underestimated, or made to believe you were less than you really are, this episode will speak to you.

    Follow After The Fall Show for more raw conversations about falling apart, rebuilding, and rising again.

    If you have a powerful story and feel it could help someone else, visit www.AfterTheFallShow.com to find out more about becoming a guest.

    To learn more about Icarus, his personal journey, and the Street Therapy approach to recovery, resilience, and personal change, visit www.streettherapy.co.uk


    For daily content, reflection, and motivation, follow Icarus on TikTok:

    https://www.tiktok.com/@Icarus_Works_UK

    To follow Ellen why not visit her website www.ellenbusch.com and her book is available at all major book resellers.

    00:00 Introduction

    00:48 Ellen’s early dyslexia journey

    01:21 Diagnosed young and written off by school

    03:33 Intelligence ignored and confidence damaged

    04:41 Dyslexia in schools then and now

    07:02 What dyslexia felt like inside

    08:20 Bullying, shame, and being treated as less than

    10:34 Separate classrooms and being marked as different

    11:16 The moment life had to change

    12:15 Low self-worth, predators, and narcissistic abuse

    13:18 Reaching surrender point

    15:54 What people get wrong about recovery

    16:36 Surrender, survival, and refusing to quit

    19:10 Why healing cannot be done alone

    20:56 The five-mountain healing journey

    23:53 Healing the whole self

    25:55 Writing the book and sharing the message

    28:29 Striving, reviving, and thriving

    29:25 The feather question

    30:33 Where to find Ellen and her book

    32:11 Closing reflections on dyslexia as a strength

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    34 mins
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