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Against the Odds

Against the Odds

Written by: UNAIDS
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Against the Odds is a series of frank conversations with guests whose lives have been touched in many different ways by HIV. We find out about the challenges they’ve faced, and what inspires them to strive for what may seem impossible goals. At UNAIDS, we guide and bring together the global effort to end AIDS. What we’ve learnt in the HIV response is that progress is never given, it is won. It depends on the power of people challenging the people in power.© 2025 Against the Odds Hygiene & Healthy Living Science Social Sciences
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  • David Gere - Being an Arts Activist
    Oct 5 2022

    Our guest today is David Gere, who calls himself an ‘Artivist.’ He is that rare being, a creative artist and writer, academic and activist, who crosses traditional boundaries with ease. David remembers the experience of seeing close friends affected and dying of AIDS in 1980s San Francisco, and his growing conviction that it might be possible to use art to change behaviours and attitudes, ‘I really thought of art as being about expression, getting things out, having a full life … it was about beauty … yes, it was about beauty, but it was also about Action.’
    David started his professional career as an arts critic in the San Francisco Bay area, was co-chair of the International Dance Critics Association, and is the founding director of the Art and Global Health Center at UCLA, the University of California, Los Angeles. He is a writer and essayist with many publications to his name, including the prize-winning book How to Make Dances in an Epidemic: Tracking Choreography in the Age of AIDS. And he has created and curated a series of exhibitions and projects, showcasing art that shines a light on public health issues, especially the HIV/AIDS epidemic. His most recent endeavor is the multi-media photo-storytelling project ‘Through Positive Eyes.’
    Can artistic work have a real impact on attitudes and prejudices? And if so, how? David reflects on what happened when the hero in a popular soap opera in India reveals himself as HIV positive, and on handing cameras to HIV positive people to tell their own stories.
    More about David here
    Through Positive Eyes photo storytelling project here
    UCLA World Arts and Cultures/DanceTwitter
    @UCLAWACD
    David Gere, prof. of arts activism in the UCLA Department of World Arts and Cultures/Dance & dir. of the UCLA Art & Global Health Center
    For more about UNAIDS, check out:
    www.unaids.org/podcasts
    Twitter: @UNAIDS
    Instagram: unaidsglobal
    UNAIDS Youtube channel
    Find Powell Media on:
    www.powellmedia.ch
    @PowellMediaCH

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    51 mins
  • Swati Bhattacharya - the Ad Queen Changing Hearts and Minds
    Sep 14 2022

    Our guest this week is Swati Bhattacharya, the first woman to become the Chief Creative Officer of a major advertising company in India. She has fought throughout her career against advertising stereotypes, particularly around the traditional roles of women in India, whether as mothers, daughters, wives or widows. What makes her different from many of her male colleagues she says, is that, ‘Whatever project I work on I put my heart into it, I have never looked at my audience as product users, they are human beings.’ Her ground-breaking approach has won her company many accolades and scores of international awards.
    Swati has never been afraid to speak her mind, and a strong focus of her work has been campaigns to battle the widespread discrimination and stigma against transgender children and adults in India, and around the world. In her opinion, most people have been battered and bruised in some way or another, but transgender people particularly suffer - from homelessness, from sexual violence and from mental illness. She recalls that transgender women are up to 40% more likely to be HIV positive.
    But if advertising is traditionally a means of increasing a company’s bottom line, how do you persuade a client like the Times of India to take on such controversial themes as a means of expanding business? And what has been the wider impact of Swati’s ground -breaking work?
    Swati’s on Twitter: @techyswati
    Some of her work:
    Unbox Me movie here
    The Mirror film here
    For more about UNAIDS, check out:
    www.unaids.org/podcasts
    Twitter: @UNAIDS
    Instagram: unaidsglobal
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    39 mins
  • DeLovie Kwagala - Don't be Perfect, Just be You
    Aug 30 2022

    This week we are talking to the extraordinary DeLovie Kwagala, award winning photographer, artist and fighter for social justice. Identifying as non-binary, Delovie grew up in Uganda, suffering an abusive childhood and learning about survival the very hard way. They remember the experience of being kidnapped from school by their father, and growing up in isolation, ignored and rejected by their stepmother. Always feeling an outsider and different from their peers, DeLovie recounts the abuse and discrimination against the LGBTQ community in Uganda; and the struggle to persuade their parents who were HIV positive, to seek treatment despite the stigma surrounding the condition. In 2013, DeLovie narrowly escapes civil war in Sudan, and eventually finds refuge in South Africa. DeLovie has found a voice through photography, with a unique style exploring identity, belonging and gender. Winning the East African Photography Award in 2021, DeLovie says, ‘ I am proud to be the first queer photographer telling a queer story to get this recognition’. Accepting yourself as you are has been a hard but essential life lesson that’s helped DeLovie succeed, totally ‘against the odds.’
    Contact DeLovie on
    deloviephotography@gmail.com

    You can see some of DeLovie’s amazing work here:
    https://deloviephotography.com/
    Instagram: aconstantbecoming
    Recent work:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/interactive/2021/pride-world-photos-lgbtq-pandemic/
    https://www.aint-bad.com/article/2021/06/28/pride/
    https://www.itsnicethat.com/news/facebook-lift-black-voices-photography-220621
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/apr/29/i-am-not-my-trauma-survivors-of-sexual-abuse-at-a-ugandan-girls-shelter-photo-essay

    For more about UNAIDS, check out:
    www.unaids.org/podcasts
    Twitter: @UNAIDS
    Instagram: unaidsglobal
    UNAIDS Youtube channel

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    56 mins
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