What happens when passion for strength meets the power of community? 🏋️‍♀️🐷Host Mike Leavitt sits down with filmmaker Josh Badal and the powerhouse duo behind The Sweaty Pig gym, Jenny Draper (pro strongwoman & founder of Athena’s Arena) and Connor Gordon, to dive into the world of strongman training, women breaking barriers, and how a quirky gym with a funny name became a life-changing community.From working in Antarctica, to creating one of the most inclusive gyms in the country, to running all-women competitions that sell out overnight, this episode is packed with stories of grit, humor, and heart.💡 Whether you’re into lifting, documentaries, or just love hearing about people changing lives through authenticity, this one’s for you!⏱ Show Notes & Timestamps00:00 – Welcome to And If Love Remains02:10 – Meet Jenny Draper: pro strongwoman & founder of Athena’s Arena06:30 – What is Strongman? Beyond fitness into functional extremes12:00 – Connor Gordon’s Antarctica story: lifting at the bottom of the world ❄️20:45 – Founding The Sweaty Pig gym in Salt Lake Valley29:15 – Why women deserve better equipment & competitions35:00 – Building a culture of support, humor, and authenticity43:50 – The documentary project: telling The Sweaty Pig story 🎬51:20 – How strongman helps with mental health & community58:00 – Success stories: women going pro and nationals surge1:07:00 – How to connect, support, and join the movement🔗 Links MentionedThe Sweaty Pig Gym (Salt Lake Valley): InstagramAthena’s Arena Competition: Learn MoreGood Works Documentary (Josh Badal’s project): Website | Instagram📢 Call to Action👉 Like, comment, and share to spread the word about this incredible community.👉 Subscribe for more inspiring conversations on And If Love Remains.👉 Support Josh’s documentary by donating at goodworksdoc.com.🏷 Hashtags#AndIfLoveRemains #TheSweatyPig #Strongman #Strongwoman #AthenasArena #CommunityStrength #WomenWhoLift #Powerlifting #Documentary #FitnessMotivation #ViralPodcast

What if practicing piano actually became FUN—and you got real feedback between lessons? 🎹✨

In this episode of And If Love Remains, host Mike Leavitt sits down with Frits & Victoria van Laarhoven, the visionary husband-and-wife duo behind Clefer, the groundbreaking app revolutionizing piano education.

They share their journey of 8 years building Clefer, their recent showcase at NCKP Chicago, and why major institutions like Steinway are paying attention. More than just an app, Clefer is designed to empower teachers, motivate students, and preserve the soul of music in a tech-driven world.

🚀 Whether you’re a piano teacher, student, or music lover, this episode will inspire you to “fall deeper in love with the piano.”

00:00 – Intro: Welcome back Frits & Victoria!
02:15 – Why technology scares (and excites) music teachers
05:48 – Launching Clefer after 8 years of development
10:22 – NCKP Chicago showcase + across from Steinway booth
15:40 – Victoria’s piano lessons and testing the app
21:05 – How Clefer bridges the gap between lessons
28:33 – The fear of AI vs. the value of real teachers
36:00 – Clefer’s acoustic + MIDI capabilities
41:18 – What makes Clefer different: real coaching, not just red/green notes
49:20 – Teacher reactions + Steinway’s interest
54:15 – Upcoming Steinway Scottsdale event (October)
59:10 – Expanding repertoire, licensing songs, & quality standards
1:08:12 – Keeping students motivated with real music they love
1:15:47 – New features: teacher module, scales, arpeggios, and more
1:23:05 – Free premium access for teachers 🎁
1:28:44 – Apple iOS 26 “Liquid Glass” compatibility update
1:35:00 – Victoria’s philosophy: compete with yourself, not others
1:40:00 – Closing thoughts: Music gives us a voice when we feel voiceless 🎶

• 🌐 Clefer Website: https://www.clefer.com

• 📱 Download Clefer on the App Store / Google Play

• 🎹 Follow Clefer on Instagram: @cleferapp

• 🎼 Steinway & Sons: https://www.steinway.com

• 🎧 Subscribe to And If Love Remains: [Podcast Link]

#Piano #MusicEducation #Clefer #EdTech #MusicTeachers #Steinway #AndIfLoveRemains #MikeLeavittPodcast #PianoLessons #MusicApp

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A wonderful conversation with Henry Welsby, manager at Steinway & Sons in Scottsdale, AZ, and renowned pianist, Aline Boyd.

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