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Are We There Yet?

Are We There Yet?

Written by: Jamie Hardy Sonja Ernst
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Are We There Yet? is about recognizing, defining, and building pathways toward a more sustainable working future. How can we collaborate with others in a way that brings authenticity and durability to our projects and relationships? What tools can we leverage to communicate productively towards a shared goal? What can leaders do to shape where we’re going, and how to get there? Hosts Sonja Ernst and Jamie Hardy are two humans on a quest to understand just where we’re headed, in monthly conversations with pioneers, professors, artists, and experts in the fields of science, technology, placemaking, coalition building, AI, and so much more. Whether you're a business leader, a technology enthusiast, or simply curious about the future of how we do things, this podcast is for you.2024-2025 Jamie Hardy & Sonja Ernst Philosophy Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Learnings From the AI Revolution: Data Sovereignty, Growth Mindset, and the Problem of Scale with Kevin O'Donovan
    Feb 4 2026

    Who should own, control, and profit from data? Will AI ultimately kill more jobs, or create them? Are the human timescale and the AI timescale compatible? Technology evangelist Kevin O’Donovan joins Sonja and Jamie to unpack how AI and emerging technologies are reshaping organizations, energy systems, and everyday work. Kevin explains why AI is different from past tech waves, acting as a horizontal force that touches every function, from engineering and procurement to HR and customer support. Can large organizations really reskill their way through disruption without also changing their mindset and culture? In a world increasingly reliant on electricity faced with mounting pressure on energy systems from data centers, electric vehicles, and automated factories, how does AI both drive demand and enable smarter grids, materials, and optimization? The conversation zooms in on people: who wins, who risks being left behind, and how small and medium businesses can use AI as a great leveler. In a world of unknowns—from geopolitics to AI—are we doomed to chaos, or are we humans wired to make it through?

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    43 mins
  • Beyond the Numbers: Building Authentic Client Relationships with Ryan Vogel
    Jan 21 2026

    Can technology ever truly replace the human touch in client relationships? How can one adapt a communication style to ensure one's advice is truly understood? How does authentic team connection strengthen organizational success? Sonja and Jamie interview Ryan Vogel, Chief Planning Officer at Novi Wealth Partners, on the importance of personalized communication and deep understanding of client needs, particularly during times of distress. Vogel highlights the role observation plays in tailoring advisor-client interactions, and honors team diversity as a bedrock of organizational sustainability and, ultimately, client satisfaction. Despite AI's potential to transform his industry, Vogel believes the human element remains crucial in building sustainable, authentic relationships with clients.

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    43 mins
  • The Power of Yet: Rethinking Change in Education with Justine González
    Dec 17 2025

    Today’s learners are tomorrow’s leaders. How can we help young people build a solid foundation now to succeed in an increasingly uncertain future? As AI rewrites the rules of the classroom, what must we do to keep humanity and equity at the heart of education? How can school leaders truly support educators and students through upheaval and innovation? And what does radical acceptance have to do with fostering ethical, lasting change?

    In this episode, Sonja and Jamie welcome nationally recognized education leader and social impact strategist Justine González. Justine shares her journey of self-acceptance, lessons learned from leading change in some of the country’s largest school districts, and how she helps educators navigate stress, transformation, and the evolving classroom. Together they unpack the power of honest self-reflection, the importance of listening to all voices in a community, and the promise and pitfalls of technology in our schools. Join us for an inspiring conversation on resilience, leadership, and what it takes to reimagine education for everyone.

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    37 mins
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