From command to community: Two MSC trailblazers reflect, recharge, and lead forward.

In this powerful and heartfelt episode, we sit down with Colonel (Retired) Kim Aiello and Colonel (Retired) Lynn Herrington, two esteemed leaders in the U.S. Army Medical Service Corps whose friendship and leadership legacies span decades, continents, and commands.

COL Aiello, a dual-military leader with nearly 30 years of operational command experience—including brigade-level leadership during the COVID response—shares how reflection, reinvention, and purpose have shaped her post-retirement journey in the corporate world. COL Herrington, a former strategic planner at the Pentagon and now the President of the Silver Caduceus Association, offers insight into how public service, healthcare policy, and personal reinvention converge after military life.

Together, they dive deep into:

• What it truly means to evolve as a leader through every stage of service
• How the Silver Caduceus Association is modernizing mentorship and community for Medical Service Corps officers past, present, and future
• The emotional and strategic realities of retiring from the Army
• Finding identity, building community, and forming friendships in the next chapter
• Their personal philosophies on leadership, humility, reinvention, and service

You’ll hear stories from their early Army days at Fort Bragg and JBLM, reflections on motherhood and mentorship, and bold visions for the future of the MSC.

Whether you're a junior officer, a senior leader nearing transition, or someone searching for connection beyond the uniform this episode is packed with inspiration, insight, and impact.

🎧 Tune in now to hear two giants of Army Medicine share what it means to live the values of service on and off duty.

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https://www.silvercaduceusassociation.org

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this podcast are the guests and host’s alone and do not reflect the official position of the Medical Service Corps, the Department of Defense, or the US Government. All information discussed is unclassified approved for public release and found on open cleared sources.

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In this powerful and deeply personal episode, we are honored to welcome Major General (Retired) David Rubenstein, the 16th Chief of the U.S. Army Medical Service Corps and former Deputy Surgeon General of the Army. With 35 years of active-duty service, including 12 years in command, MG Rubenstein brings unmatched experience, wisdom, and humility to this rich and engaging conversation.

Episode Highlights

• The 14-Word Leadership Philosophy
  MG Rubenstein shares his simple but powerful career-long philosophy:
  Take care of people. Take care of equipment. Pay attention to detail. Blend life.
  He unpacks how this philosophy shaped his command, influenced thousands, and still resonates today across military and civilian leadership.
• Leadership Lessons from Command
  From his early days as a platoon leader in Germany to commanding some of the Army’s most critical medical organizations, MG Rubenstein reflects on what truly matters: balancing cultures, embracing growth, and leading people with purpose.
• Ranger School & Resilience
  Hear how Ranger School developed his attention to detail and leadership under pressure and why he believes all Soldiers should ask for opportunities, even if the answer might be no.
• Operational vs. TDA Command
  MG Rubenstein explains why good leadership transcends unit type and that every command matters when you lead with intention and authenticity.
• Service After Service
  Learn how MG Rubenstein continues to give back through volunteering, mentoring, and professional society leadership. He breaks down how to start giving back today, whether you're still in uniform or planning for retirement.
• Mentorship & Asking the Right Questions
  Discover his take on building genuine mentor relationships and the difference between a mentee and a protégé. MG Rubenstein also shares how just asking one career question can be the start of a transformational connection.
• Professional Organizations & Lifelong Learning
  As a past Chairman of the Board of Governors of the American College of Healthcare Executives (ACHE), he explains why belonging to a professional society is critical for continued development and how board certification sets leaders apart.

👤 About MG (Ret.) David Rubenstein

MG Rubenstein served as the Deputy Surgeon General of the Army, Commanding General of the AMEDD Center and School, and led key units such as Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, the 30th Medical Brigade, and the 21st CSH. A Ranger School graduate and Master Parachutist, he was twice named to Modern Healthcare’s list of the 100 most influential people in healthcare.

He is a board-certified healthcare executive, recipient of ACHE’s Gold Medal, and the only Chairman Emeritus of AMSUS: The Society for Federal Health Professionals. His commitment to mentorship, leadership, and service continues to influence healthcare professionals across the nation.

🎧 This is not just an episode, it’s a masterclass in leadership, resilience, and service.
Whether you’re a junior officer, senior leader, healthcare executive, or tran

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this podcast are the guests and host’s alone and do not reflect the official position of the Medical Service Corps, the Department of Defense, or the US Government. All information discussed is unclassified approved for public release and found on open cleared sources.

For more episodes listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube @ Be All You Can Be MSC

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In this powerful episode, we are honored to welcome Brigadier General Roger S. Giraud, the 21st Chief of the U.S. Army Medical Service Corps (MSC), Commanding General of Medical Readiness Command–Europe, Command Surgeon for U.S. Army Europe and Africa, and Director of the Defense Health Network Europe. With a career spanning over three decades, BG Giraud brings unmatched leadership experience across tactical, operational, and strategic levels. In this episode, he shares the vision and strategy to achieve the future of the Medical Service Corps and breaks down what it takes to build, grow, and lead a world-class team of Medical Service Corps Officers and Warrant Officers.

Episode Highlights:

• People Are the Priority: BG Giraud outlines our three strategic priorities for the Medical Service Corps. Recruit phenomenal talent, Develop it deliberately, and Retain the best to meet Army modernization demands.
• Talent Management: Why it's essential for officers to master their craft, advocate for their careers, and understand the flexibility of the MSC structure.
• The Future of Army Medicine: A candid discussion on leveraging data, artificial intelligence, and structure changes to make the MSC more adaptable and impactful.
• Mentorship & Leadership: Reflections from a career that spans Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Germany, the Pentagon, and beyond. BG Giraud shares the leadership principles that shaped him and how MSC officers at all levels can apply them.
• Practical Advice for Officers: Whether you’re just commissioning or preparing for strategic-level command, BG Giraud offers honest guidance for career growth, resilience, and staying mission ready.
• Call to Action: BG Giraud emphasizes staying relevant, investing in professional development, and keeping MSC officers at the forefront of the Medical Service Corps mission “conserve the fighting strength now and into the future so others may live.”

About BG Roger S. Giraud. BG Giraud is a Distinguished Military Graduate of Texas A&M, with dual bachelor's degrees in Biomedical and Animal Science. He earned his Master of Health Administration from Baylor University and a Master of Strategic Studies from the U.S. Army War College. His command and staff roles include battalion, brigade, and division-level leadership; deployments to Iraq, Kosovo, and Afghanistan; and multiple executive roles at OTSG and MEDCOM HQ. His awards include the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, Expert Field Medical Badge, German Armed Forces Proficiency Badge (Gold), and membership in the Order of Military Medical Merit. He is also the recipient of The Surgeon General’s prestigious “A” Proficiency Designator.

Pro Tip: Watch alongside the MSC Strategy Map on our YouTube channel to follow BG Giraud’s discussion in action.

Book reference: The History of the U.S. Army Medical Service Corps by Richard V.N. Ginn, https://www.amazon.com/History-Medical-Service-Richard-2015-10-19/dp/B01K3JNXHE

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this podcast are the guests and host’s alone and do not reflect the official position of the Medical Service Corps, the Department of Defense, or the US Government. All information discussed is unclassified approved for public release and found on open cleared sources.

For more episodes listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube @ Be All You Can Be MSC

For more information, suggestions, or questions please contact: beallyoucanbemsc@gmail.com