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Bearing Weight

Bearing Weight

Written by: Weeping Elephant Project
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Elephants carry more than we ask them to. So do the people who care for them. Bearing Weight is a podcast about the untold stories of elephants and the veterinarians, caregivers, researchers, advocates, and sanctuary leaders around the world who have dedicated their lives to them.

These are honest, grounded conversations about what it really takes to put elephants first: the science, the sacrifice, the hard-won knowledge, and the quiet, daily work that rarely makes headlines. At a time when elephant welfare organizations often work in isolation, Bearing Weight is a space for their voices to gather — so their work can be found, understood, and supported.

Hosted by David Ebert, Founder, and Danielle Carnahan, Executive Director of the Weeping Elephant Project, this podcast invites you to slow down, listen closely, and sit with the realities we too often look past.

The stories are heavy, and they're worth carrying.

2026 Weeping Elephant Project
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Episodes
  • Rewriting Centuries of Tradition — with Sangita Iyer
    May 15 2026

    Sangita Iyer didn't set out to make a film that would be nominated at the United Nations General Assembly. She set out to tell the truth about what was happening to elephants in the temples of Kerala — and the truth turned out to be something the world needed to see.

    In this episode, Sangita takes us inside her decades of work documenting the plight of temple elephants in India — the suffering hidden behind centuries of tradition, the cultural and institutional forces that work to keep it that way, and what it has cost her personally to keep speaking anyway. We also explore the work of the Voice for Asian Elephants Society, from a robotic elephant project challenging the need for live animals in religious festivals, to securing corridor land that keeps wild elephants out of villages and out of captivity in the first place.

    This is a conversation about what happens when you can't look away — and what you build when looking away is no longer an option.

    About Sangita Iyer & the Voice for Asian Elephants Society

    Sangita Iyer is a biologist, journalist, and filmmaker whose work has brought the plight of Asian elephants to a global audience. Her documentary Gods in Shackles received 13 international film festival awards and was nominated at the UN General Assembly. Sangita is also the recipient of the Nari Shakti Puraskar — India's highest civilian honor for women — awarded by the President of India for her work exposing the exploitation of elephants in the name of culture and religion. Dr. Jane Goodall has written the foreword to Sangita's book and endorsed the Voice for Asian Elephants Society, calling the work essential. Through VFAES, Sangita continues to fight for wild and captive Asian elephants through advocacy, education, and on-the-ground conservation projects.

    🌐 vfaes.org 🎬
    Watch Gods in Shackles: unchainedtv.com
    📖 Gods in Shackles — the book: amazon.com

    About the Weeping Elephant Project

    Weeping Elephant Project is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to raising awareness and affecting change for circus and zoo elephants in the United States. Bearing Weight is our effort to bring those voices together — because the work is stronger when it's shared.

    Consider donating to support the work we're doing: weepingelephant.org

    🌐 weepingelephant.org
    📸 Instagram: @weepingelephantproject

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    43 mins
  • How AI Is Changing the Way We Study Elephants — with Frank Pope
    Apr 16 2026

    Frank Pope came to elephants by accident. He spent years with his eyes fixed on the ocean, until he looked into the eye of an elephant in Samburu and felt the same thing he'd felt looking into a whale's eye. That was enough.

    In this episode, Frank takes us inside the research engine at Save the Elephants, from using AI to assess camera-trap footage to reveal that scientists were missing 30% of elephants in aerial surveys, to the groundbreaking study that proved elephants give each other names. We also wrestle with the harder question underneath all of it — whether the upsides of AI in conservation are worth the misinformation, fake fundraising campaigns, and displacement it leaves in its wake.

    This is a conversation about science, technology, legacy, and what it means to keep fighting for a future that isn't guaranteed.

    About Frank Pope & Save the Elephants

    Frank Pope is the CEO of Save the Elephants, an organization founded by the late Ian Douglas-Hamilton — one of the most significant figures in elephant conservation history, and Frank's father-in-law. Under Frank's leadership, Save the Elephants operates at the center of a continental network of more than 120 organizations across Africa, funding field research, supporting local communities, and developing the tools that are redefining how we understand and protect elephants in the wild.

    💛 Donate to support their mission

    🌐 savetheelephants.org
    📸 Instagram: @savetheelephants

    About the Weeping Elephant Project

    The Weeping Elephant Project is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to raising awareness and affecting change for circus and zoo elephants in the United States. Bearing Weight is our effort to bring those voices together — because the work is stronger when it's shared.

    Consider donating to support the work we're doing, and follow along with our work:

    🌐 weepingelephant.org
    📸 Instagram: @weepingelephantproject

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    44 mins
  • If Humans Were Better Beings, They'd Be Elephants — with Steve Koyle
    Mar 19 2026

    Steve Koyle didn't set out to be a disruptor. He just couldn't stop asking for more.

    In this episode, Steve takes us through 14 years as an elephant keeper at the Phoenix Zoo, and how his passion for elephant welfare ultimately led to him being fired.

    It was, he says, the best thing that ever happened to elephants.

    Today Steve travels the world through Elephant Care Unchained, showing up at zoos, temples, camps, and sanctuaries with one simple goal: whatever this is, make it better. It's unglamorous, exhausting, often heartbreaking work — done without a home address, out of a suitcase, powered entirely by intention. This is a conversation about reform, resilience, and what it means to speak on behalf of animals who didn't sign up for any of this.

    About Steve Koyle & Elephant Care Unchained

    Steve Koyle is the founder of Elephant Care Unchained, a nonprofit working globally to improve elephant welfare by training handlers and supporting the transition to humane care practices. Steve's decades of hands-on experience give him a unique and hard-earned perspective on what elephants in captivity need — and what it takes to change the culture around them. He is currently launching a campaign to help the elephants nobody knows about, bringing awareness and care to captive elephants living in conditions that rarely make headlines.

    🌐 elephantcareunchained.com 📸 Instagram: @elephantcareunchained 💛 Donate to support Steve's mission: elephantcareunchained.com/donate

    About the Weeping Elephant Project

    The Weeping Elephant Project is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to raising awareness and affecting change for circus and zoo elephants in the United States. Bearing Weight is our effort to bring voices together — because the work is stronger when it's shared.

    Consider donating to support the work we're doing: weepingelephant.org

    🌐 weepingelephant.org 📸 Instagram: @weepingelephantproject

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    39 mins
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