Episodes

  • Beauty, Ritual, and Spirit | International Symposium "Can Beauty Save the World?" with Ayodeji Ogunnaike, Julian Carrón, Matt Miller, Mauro Magatti
    Apr 14 2026

    This is the closing panel of our international symposium "Can beauty save the world?" held at McGill University, Oct 24-25, 2025, and focuses on ritual and spirit in the age of disenchantment.

    We open with a song from singer-songwriter Tiffany Thompson.

    Ayodeji Ogunnaike (McGill), Julian Carrón (Sacro Cuore, Milan), Matt Miller (Dzeici Theater), and Mauro Magatti (Sacro Cuore, Milan) called for the recovery of spirit as essential to beauty’s saving power. Deji drew on Yoruba philosophy, where character is beauty and truth may be transformative rather than pleasant. Fr. Carron asked whether beauty can help us open our whole selves to reality instead. Matt reflected on how beauty matters for change of state vs. change of being. Mauro argued that beauty saves only if we rehabilitate spirit as a structural dimension of human thought— resonant, decentering, transcendent, and mysterious.

    The panel was moderated by novelist and theologian Tara Isabella Burton, who also offers closing remarks.

    The event was sponsored by the John Templeton Foundation.

    Learn more at www.canbeautysavetheworld.com and www.beautyatwork.net

    #beautyatwork #beauty #music #ritual #spirit #theology #yoruba #transformation

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    1 hr and 31 mins
  • The Transformative Power of Art and Architecture with Anjan Chatterjee, Alberto Perez-Gomez, Stephen Legari, and J.F. Martel
    Apr 7 2026

    This is a panel on the transformative power of art and architecture as part of the international symposium "Can beauty save the world?" held at McGill University, Oct 24-25, 2025.

    The session begins with poetry from Olivia Wood, who moderated the panel.

    Anjan Chatterjee (University of Pennsylvania) examined our vocabularies to express aesthetic experience and the relationship between transformational experience and third-person rendition. Alberto Perez-Gomez (McGill) noted that the value of architecture has always been its beauty, which orients us toward justice, festivity, and the common good. Stephen Legari (MMFA) shared how collective awe, experienced through slow looking and hospitality, can heal and connect. J.F. Martel distinguished between the beauty of the geometers vs. ecstatic beauty, and how art matters for both.

    The panel was sponsored by the John Templeton Foundation.

    Learn more at www.canbeautysavetheworld.com and www.beautyatwork.net

    #beauty #art #architecture #museum #arttherapy #philosophy #neuroscience #neuroaesthetics #philosophyofart

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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • The Transformative Power of Music | "Can Beauty Save the World?"
    Mar 31 2026

    In this panel during the international symposium "Can beauty save the world?" held at McGill University, Oct 24-25 2025, Jean-Sébastien Vallée (McGill), Katie Bank (Birmingham), Rebekah Wallace (Oxford), Ian Corbin (Harvard), and Jonathan Berger (Stanford) explored the transformative power of music. The panel was moderated by Stephen Bullivant (St. Mary's London).

    We began with a performance by an acapella quartet from the Schulich School of Music (McGill).

    Jean-Sébastien described the conductor’s task as creating a sonic space where sound becomes meaning—a community where difference becomes harmony. One of his singers, who had just lost her husband, came to perform because “singing with my choir is the only way I can breathe right now.” Katie and Rebekah described how early modern thinkers saw music as acting on the whole person, not as external stimulus but as an activity of the soul. Ian reflected on the relevance of music to our longing for wholeness, which passes through failure, undoing, despondence. Jonathan discussed his fascinating research on the sonic signatures of sacred spaces, and how the balance between clarity and blur in sound transforms acoustics into awe.

    The event was sponsored by the John Templeton Foundation.

    Learn more at www.canbeautysavetheworld.com and www.beautyatwork.net

    #beauty #music #transformation #philosophy #musicology #spirituality


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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • Can Beauty Save the World? with Charles Taylor, Sean Kelly, Elaine Scarry, Richard Kearney
    Mar 25 2026

    This is the opening panel for the international symposium "Can beauty save the world?" held at McGill University, Montreal, Oct 24-25, 2025.

    We begin with introductions from Dan Cere (McGill), Brandon Vaidyanathan (Catholic University of America), Charles Taylor (McGill), and Tara Isabella Burton (Catholic University of America), followed by a panel discussion between Sean Kelly (Harvard), Elaine Scarry (Harvard), and Richard Kearney (Boston College), moderated by Bill Barbieri (Catholic University of America)

    Sean Kelly reflected that beauty moves us beyond ourselves. It saves us from the flattening of meaningful differences. To encounter beauty is to order one’s life around the object of love. When we long for others to share in that recognition, we glimpse beauty’s political potential—it calls us into conversation rather than conflict.

    Elaine Scarry deepened that insight, reminding us that the opposite of beauty is not ugliness, but injury. Beauty and justice both arise from a sense of fairness and the desire to repair harm. Beauty’s lasting impact, she noted, is generative—it makes us want to create.

    Richard Kearney drew on Gerard Manley Hopkins’s image of the “pied” world—speckled, varied, alive with difference. Beauty, he said, is not pure symmetry but aftering: it often arrives through suffering and loss, reconciling the universal and the particular.

    And Charles Taylor reminded us that beauty cannot be defined apart from itself. Its relation to truth is reciprocal, not hierarchical. To understand one, we must hold the other in view. “That,” he said, “is how beauty can save the world.”


    The symposium was sponsored by the John Templeton Foundation.

    Learn more at www.canbeautysavetheworld.com and www.beautyatwork.net

    #beautyatwork #beauty #aesthetics #philosophy #philosophyofbeauty

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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • AI and the Future of Human Agency with Helen and Dave Edwards - S4E12 (Part 2 of 2)
    Mar 17 2026

    Helen and Dave Edwards are co-founders of the Artificiality Institute, a nonprofit research organization that helps people stay human in the age of AI. They explore how AI changes the way we think, who we become, and what it means to be human. Through story-based research, education, and community, they help people choose the relationship they want with machines, so they remain the authors of their own minds.

    Before founding the Artificiality Institute, they co-founded Intelligentsia.ai, an AI-focused research firm acquired by Atlantic Media. Helen previously led large-scale technology and transformation efforts in critical infrastructure, while Dave spent years shaping creative tools at Apple and investing in emerging technologies as a venture capitalist at CRV and an equity research analyst at Morgan Stanley and ThinkEquity.


    In this second part of our conversation, we talk about:

    1. Rethinking intelligence as something layered, embodied, and expressed in different forms
    2. The “SaaSpocalypse” moment on Wall Street
    3. The “Dust Bowl” metaphor and the risk of automating complex human systems too quickly
    4. Transition from the attention economy to the intimacy economy
    5. Dave and Helen’s reflections on what is lost when we use AI
    6. How AI systems uncover hidden structures in language, science, and the natural world
    7. Practical ways creators can decide where AI belongs in their creative process


    To learn more about Helen and Dave’s work, you can find them at:

    https://artificialityinstitute.org/


    Books and resources mentioned:

    The Artificiality, AI Culture, and Why the Future Will Be Co-Evolution (by Helen Edwards)


    This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust.



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    36 mins
  • AI and the Future of Human Agency with Helen and Dave Edwards - S4E12 (Part 1 of 2)
    Mar 10 2026

    Artificial intelligence is not only changing what we can do, but may be changing how we think. As AI systems increasingly participate in writing, reasoning, and decision-making, it becomes more urgent to ask what it means to retain human agency and ensure we're not losing our fundamental capabilities.

    My guests today, Helen and Dave Edwards, have been working seriously on this question.

    Helen and Dave Edwards are co-founders of the Artificiality Institute, a nonprofit research organization that helps people stay human in the age of AI. They explore how AI changes the way we think, who we become, and what it means to be human. Through story-based research, education, and community, they help people choose the relationship they want with machines, so they remain the authors of their own minds.

    Before founding the Artificiality Institute, they co-founded Intelligentsia.ai, an AI-focused research firm acquired by Atlantic Media. Helen previously led large-scale technology and transformation efforts in critical infrastructure, while Dave spent years shaping creative tools at Apple and investing in emerging technologies as a venture capitalist at CRV and an equity research analyst at Morgan Stanley and ThinkEquity.


    In this first part of our conversation, we discuss:

    1. Helen and Dave's early childhood experiences of beauty
    2. The origin of the Artificiality Institute
    3. How AI is already reshaping the way we reason, write, create, and make decisions
    4. What happens to human reasoning and decision-making when AI becomes part of our thinking process
    5. The difference between “drift” and intentional authorship when working with AI
    6. Cognitive sovereignty as the central challenge of the AI era
    7. How can people use AI deeply and skillfully
    8. The concept of symbolic plasticity and how AI can reshape the frameworks we use to understand the world


    To learn more about Helen and Dave’s work, you can find them at:

    https://artificialityinstitute.org/


    Books and resources mentioned:

    The Artificiality, AI Culture, and Why the Future Will Be Co-Evolution (by Helen Edwards)


    This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust.



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    39 mins
  • Innovation and Religion with Dr. Marco Ventura - S4E11 (Part 2 of 2)
    Mar 3 2026

    Dr. Marco Ventura is Professor of Law and Religion and Religious Diplomacy at the University of Siena in Italy. Trained in bioethics and biolaw at the University of Strasbourg, he has advised the European Parliament, the OSCE, and various governments on the intersection of religion and rights. He directed the Center for Religious Studies at the Fondazione Bruno Kessler in Trento and chairs the G20 Interfaith Working Group on Religion, Innovation, and Technology and Infrastructures.

    Marco is the author of numerous books, including From Your Gods to Our Gods and Nelle mani di Dio, la super religione del mondo che verrà. Over the past decade, he has helped shape the emerging field exploring the encounter between religion and innovation.

    In this episode, we explore Marco's work on bioethics and technoscience, their influential position paper mapping out this emerging field of religion and innovation, and what innovation really means in a religious context.


    In this second part of our conversation, we talk about:

    1. The language of innovation

    2. How do religious communities decide what kind of change is desirable?

    3. Innovation, markets, and technology as rival meaning systems

    4. Resistance movements as responses to innovation

    5. Politicization and polarization in debates about markets and capitalism


    To learn more about Marco’s work, you can find him at:

    • https://credo.unisi.it/about/secretariat-and-experts/person/marco


    Links Mentioned:

    • Religion, Innovation, Position paper, FBK 2019 - https://isr.fbk.eu/en/about-us/position-paper/
    • Fondazione Bruno Kessler – https://www.fbk.eu/
    • G20 Interfaith Forum – https://www.g20interfaith.org/
    • Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) – https://www.osce.org/


    This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust.

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    29 mins
  • Innovation and Religion with Dr. Marco Ventura - S4E11 (Part 1 of 2)
    Feb 24 2026

    Dr. Marco Ventura is Professor of Law and Religion and Religious Diplomacy at the University of Siena in Italy. Trained in bioethics and biolaw at the University of Strasbourg, he has advised the European Parliament, the OSCE, and various governments on the intersection of religion and rights. He directed the Center for Religious Studies at the Fondazione Bruno Kessler in Trento and chairs the G20 Interfaith Working Group on Religion, Innovation, and Technology and Infrastructures.

    Marco is the author of numerous books, including From Your Gods to Our Gods and Nelle mani di Dio, la super religione del mondo che verrà. Over the past decade, he has helped shape the emerging field exploring the encounter between religion and innovation.

    In this episode, we explore Marco's work on bioethics and technoscience, their influential position paper mapping out this emerging field of religion and innovation, and what innovation really means in a religious context.


    In this first part of our conversation, we discuss:

    1. The balance between tradition and contemporary art
    2. The story of St. Francis and “repair my church” as a metaphor for renewal
    3. Catholic Church’s response to reproductive technologies
    4. Why “innovation” was chosen instead of simply “technology.”
    5. Distinction between technological innovation and social innovation
    6. Two categories of innovation
    7. Why religious actors want a voice in innovation-driven global agendas
    8. The use of innovation in a religious context


    To learn more about Marco’s work, you can find him at:

    • https://credo.unisi.it/about/secretariat-and-experts/person/marco


    Links Mentioned:

    • Religion, Innovation, Position paper, FBK 2019 - https://isr.fbk.eu/en/about-us/position-paper/
    • Fondazione Bruno Kessler – https://www.fbk.eu/
    • G20 Interfaith Forum – https://www.g20interfaith.org/
    • Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) – https://www.osce.org/


    This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust.


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    30 mins