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Before We Get There

Before We Get There

Written by: Nicholas Braman
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Before We Get There is a podcast about resilience, pivots, and the unfinished paths we all walk. Host Nicholas Braman sits down with creatives, athletes, chefs, entrepreneurs, and others from Singapore and across Asia to surface the moments that reshape them, what stops working, what becomes clearer, and what keeps them moving forward before anything feels settled. New episodes every other Thursday. Learn more at https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast.

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Episodes
  • 38. The Woman I Dress with Debbie Wong
    Jan 21 2026
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman sits down with Debbie Wong, a TV host and entrepreneur with a background in performing arts and culinary arts. Debbie shares her journey of growing up as an immigrant in Canada, her passion for food, and her venture into the world of YouTube and Food Network Asia. She talks about her transition back to Hong Kong, her experiences in front of the camera, and the lessons learned about self-worth and confidence. Debbie also dives into her new endeavor, Dressing the Woman, a personal style consultancy. Throughout the conversation, she reflects on her personal growth and the importance of stepping into her power. Debbie's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ms.debbiewong/ Dressing The Woman: https://www.instagram.com/dressingthewoman/

    Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Debbie Wong 03:39 Starting a YouTube Channel 05:13 Performing Arts and Acting Career 10:59 Returning to Hong Kong 17:46 Challenges of Hosting a TV Show 22:18 Overcoming Self-Limiting Beliefs 24:30 Starting a Fashion Consultancy 28:54 Balancing Creativity and Business 39:07 Future Goals and Personal Growth 42:52 Closing Remarks and Social Media Links
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    44 mins
  • 37. Creating A Singapore Dream with Marion Muller (swizzyinsg)
    Jan 7 2026
    In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Beman chats with Marion Muller, also known as swizzyinsg, about her unexpected path to becoming a successful content creator in Singapore. Marion details her journey from a struggling job seeker to a full-time content creator, sharing her experiences with identity shifts, dealing with online hate, and building a supportive community. She emphasizes the importance of passion, resilience, and continuous learning in her career. This episode is particularly insightful for those in transitional phases and highlights the behind-the-scenes challenges and rewards of the content creation industry. Swizzy's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swizzyinsg/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swizzyinsg

    Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Marion Introduction and Early Struggles 04:34 Starting the Content Creation Journey 12:43 Dealing with Hate and Negativity 20:12 Balancing Authenticity and Sponsorships 26:21 Mindset and Motivation 34:40 Building Local Connections 39:34 The Drive to Learn and Grow 42:13 The Reality Behind the Scenes 45:00 Final Thoughts and Farewell
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    48 mins
  • 36. Behind the Red Nose with Shanice Stanislaus
    Dec 24 2025
    In this special Christmas episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews professional clown Shanice Stanislaus. Shanice shares her unique journey from being a serious student to discovering her passion for clowning, despite cultural expectations. They discuss the challenges she faced gaining acceptance back home, how she found validation abroad, and the importance of joy and playfulness in life. Shanice also talks about her mission to introduce clowning to more people in Singapore, the barriers to creativity, and how she helps others reconnect with their inner joy. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion on embracing one's true self and the transformative power of humor. Shanice's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanicestanislaus/ Website: https://creativesinspirit.com/

    Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast

    00:00 Meet Shanice Stanislaus: The Professional Clown 03:00 Discovering Clowning at NYU 06:52 Balancing a Marketing Job and Clowning 08:46 The Turning Point: Clown School in France 19:01 Challenges and Successes in Singapore 22:07 Facing Rejection and Perseverance 26:27 Finding Validation Abroad 31:17 Teaching Clowning in Singapore 39:12 Encouraging Playfulness in Children 42:03 Future Aspirations and Closing Remarks
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    45 mins
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