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Behind the Binary by Google Cloud Security

Behind the Binary by Google Cloud Security

Written by: Josh Stroschein
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Welcome to Behind the Binary, the podcast that introduces you to the fascinating people, technology, and tools driving the world of reverse engineering. Join your host, Josh Stroschein, a reverse engineer with the FLARE team at Google, and someone passionate about sharing knowledge and shedding light on the art of reverse engineering, as he sits down with intriguing guests to explore the human side of this profession.

Behind the Binary goes beyond the code, sharing the stories, motivations, and unique perspectives of the individuals who dedicate their lives to unraveling the complexities of technology. We'll hear about their journeys into the field, the challenges they face, and the impact their work has on securing our digital world.

Whether you're a seasoned malware analyst, a software developer, a security researcher, or just someone curious about the world of reverse engineering, Behind the Binary offers insightful and engaging conversations for everyone interested in this fascinating field.


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Episodes
  • EP21 From HITB Origins to Agentic AI: Web3, Music & The Future of Hacking with Dhillon Kannabhiran
    Jan 14 2026

    In this episode, Dhillon Kannabhiran shares the gritty origin story of Hack in the Box (HITB), detailing how he dug a $20k financial hole to launch the first event in Malaysia before building it into a global brand.

    The conversation moves beyond conferences to explore the cutting edge of technology and creativity. Dhillon explains why "agentic" systems (like Xbow) signal the end of hand-built exploits and discusses the unique challenges of securing Web3 smart contracts. We also dive into the intersection of math and music, how AI tools like Suno are changing art, and why the "hacker ethos" applies to everything from bug bounties to content creation.

    Get the latest from FLARE's community efforts: Email flare-external@google.com to join our mailing list for important announcements. Your information will not be shared and is used only for this purpose.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • EP20 Windows Under the Hood: Kernel Design, EDRs, and the Shift to VBS with Pavel Yosifovich
    Dec 10 2025

    In this episode, we get a unique look at the history of Windows through the eyes of one of its leading experts, Pavel Yosifovich. We delve into his fascinating origin story, including the "fluke" that led him to become the author of the legendary Windows Internals series, and why he describes himself as a developer who "hates security."

    The conversation explores the most significant foundational changes in Windows kernel design, specifically the architectural shift toward Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) and the long-term strategy behind the "Secure Kernel." We discuss the ever-evolving landscape of EDRs, the reality of kernel-level threats, and the impact AI and memory-safe languages like Rust will have on future development. This episode offers valuable insights for reverse engineers and developers interested in the big-picture trends that have shaped—and will continue to shape—the world of operating system design.

    Get the latest from FLARE's community efforts: Email flare-external@google.com to join our mailing list for important announcements. Your information will not be shared and is used only for this purpose.

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • EP19 The Art of Deconstructing Problems: Tools, Tactics, and the ScatterBrain Obfuscator with Nino Isakovic
    Nov 19 2025

    In this episode, we’re joined by Nino Isakovic, a long-time low-level security expert, for a thought-provoking conversation that spans the foundational and the cutting-edge. Nino discusses the art of deconstructing problems—sharing insights on how to learn effectively, the building blocks of a robust RE toolkit, and the critical shift required in our analytical approach. We then transition into the front lines of threat intelligence, where Nino discusses the specific challenges of analyzing sophisticated adversary tools. This includes systems like ORB Networks and a detailed look at his discovery of the ScatterBrain obfuscating compiler. Tune in for a full-spectrum discussion on what it takes to thrive in reverse engineering.

    ScatterBrain blog post: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/scatterbrain-unmasking-poisonplug-obfuscator?e=48754805

    Get the latest from FLARE's community efforts: Email flare-external@google.com to join our mailing list for important announcements. Your information will not be shared and is used only for this purpose.


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    1 hr and 53 mins
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