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By HR for HR

By HR for HR

Written by: Jocelyn King Virgil HR
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 Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR, this series brings together forward-thinking HR and talent leaders for candid conversations about the realities of modern people operations. Each episode cuts through complexity and focuses on practical, usable insights across recruiting and performance management, compliance, AI, leadership, and the changing employee experience. Jocelyn’s grounded, thoughtful approach invites guests to share what’s really working in their organizations and the lessons learned along the way, giving HR professionals clear guidance they can apply immediately. Whether the topic is technology, culture, or strategy, these conversations spotlight the ideas shaping the future of work.Jocelyn King, Virgil HR Careers Economics Personal Success
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  • #6 - Walter Sabrin: Chief Talent Officer at Vensure Employer Solutions

    #6 - Walter Sabrin: Chief Talent Officer at Vensure Employer Solutions
    Jan 22 2026
    From "failed tennis pro" to leading a global network of over 150 recruiters, Walter Sabrin joins Jocelyn King to explore the high-stakes world of talent acquisition. Walter discusses how Vensure Employer Solutions scaled from 120 to over 6,000 employees by treating HR as a strategic business alliance rather than a roadblock. The discussion tackles the "Empty Seat Syndrome"—the danger of hiring the wrong person out of desperation—and the critical importance of upskilling to retain top talent. Walter also provides a candid look at the current state of AI in recruiting, noting that while the industry buzz is loud, many candidates and hiring managers remain hesitant to broach the topic during interviews. Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit www.virgilhr.com and follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    20 mins
  • #5 - Joey Price: HR as the Operating System: Strategy, Data, and Diplomacy

    #5 - Joey Price: HR as the Operating System: Strategy, Data, and Diplomacy
    Jan 15 2026
    In this episode of By HR For HR, host Jocelyn King sits down with Joey Price to discuss the evolution of the HR professional from administrative support to the "operating system" of modern business. Joey shares insights from his journey as an HR consultant and author, explaining why HR leaders must act as diplomats who balance the needs of employees with the strategic goals of the C-suite. The conversation also dives into the acquisition of Aspect 43 and the latest research on HR tech buying trends. With budgets flattening and C-suite executives taking a more active role in purchasing decisions, Joey reveals why 40% of HR buyers still lack a clear AI strategy and how practitioners can close that gap to remain competitive. Find out more about Joey Price on LinkedIn. Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit www.virgilhr.com and follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    21 mins
  • #4 - John Baldino: Stop Measuring "Time to Hire" and Start Monetizing Vacancy

    #4 - John Baldino: Stop Measuring "Time to Hire" and Start Monetizing Vacancy
    Jan 8 2026
    John Baldino, President of Humareso, joins us live from HR Tech 2025 to discuss the evolution of the industry, from the days of "Personnel" and manual payroll to today’s data-driven people analytics. John challenges HR leaders to stop obsessing over "time to hire" and start calculating the real cost of vacancy: quantifying the lost productivity when managers have to cover open roles and the financial impact of burnout on remaining teams. He also explains why geographic cost differentials should be a primary factor in modern hiring strategies, urging leaders to look beyond major tech hubs to optimize budget. The conversation pivots to a critical struggle for many practitioners: how to move from reactive to strategic, especially within an "HR Department of One." John offers a liberating, incremental approach to shaving down the 92% of time spent on transactional tasks starting with letting employees manage their own data. He wraps up with the single most effective question HR professionals can ask managers to spark transformative, strategic partnership. It is a masterclass in proving HR’s financial value while keeping the "human" in human resources. Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit www.virgilhr.com and follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    18 mins
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