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CATO Podcast

CATO Podcast

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We believe Tactics are a science, and the Art is in how we apply those tactics. Members of the California Association of Tactical Officers (CATO) interview a variety of guests and discuss lessons learned, the evolution of tactics, and other contemporary issues facing law enforcement.Copyright 2022 All rights reserved. Political Science Politics & Government
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  • Ep 80: Lessons Learned: Mass Shooting at Texas Mall
    Nov 20 2024

    On May 6, 2023, a mass shooting occurred at the Allen Premium Outlets mall in Allen, Texas. An Allen Police Department officer was already on the scene for an unrelated call for service when he bravely pursued the suspect and ended the incident. Allen Police Department Deputy Chief (then Lieutenant) Kris Wirstrom responded and acted as the Incident Commander. Nine people were killed, and seven others were injured.

    In this episode of the CATO Podcast, Marcus speaks with Deputy Chief Kris Wirstrom, breaking down the active shooter incident, lessons learned, and the impact on our profession. Marcus was fortunate enough to represent CATO at the 2024 North American Active Assailant Conference, where he heard Kris Wirstrom speak. He's one of those guys who makes you proud to be part of our profession. We trust you'll find his reflections and insight as valuable as Marcus did.

    Allen Premium Outlets Active Shooter Event - ALERRT/AIR video:

    https://app.frame.io/presentations/1c76c14b-4ba3-4460-8245-860d9e823e4f

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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • Ep 79: Active Shooter Leadership with Travis Norton
    Aug 21 2024

    Marcus interviews Travis Norton about his doctoral research on active shooter response at the University of Southern California. Travis was one of the authors of CATO's latest two-day course, Active Shooter Incident Leadership. Travis contributed much of the research and content for this POST-approved course, which addresses the common failures and challenges inherent in Active Shooter response. To learn about the class, where it is next or to host it, go to CATOTRAINING.ORG.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Episode 78: Sound Doctrine: A Tactical Primer, Chapter 8, Gathering and Using Intelligence
    Aug 7 2024

    "Good intelligence is the linchpin for all tactical operations."

    -Sid Heal

    Marcus, Adam, and Kris discuss Chapter 8 of Sound Doctrine: A Tactical Primer. The group discusses information versus intelligence, the parts of the intelligence cycle, and situational awareness. They also cover the common operational picture and how you can reduce friction during your next operation.

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    58 mins
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