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Cardigan and Collar

Cardigan and Collar

Written by: North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS)
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Cardigan & Collar is the podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS), pursuing theological conversations for the enrichment of pastoral ministry. In each episode, Professor David Luy and Pastor Maurice Lee interview guests, discuss books, trade insights, and seek wisdom, in the conviction that theology is both Christ’s gift to the church and its responsibility. To learn more about the North American Lutheran Seminary visit www.thenals.orgNorth American Lutheran Seminary (NALS) Spirituality
Episodes
  • A Wider Aperture: Seeing with Bonhoeffer
    Nov 11 2025

    In the final episode of our Bonhoeffer season, David and Maurice look back on what makes Bonhoeffer’s witness so compelling. They talk about his ability to see reality in full—to hold together truths that others pull apart. From the church’s brokenness and beauty to Christ’s presence in the middle of history’s mess, Bonhoeffer helps us see and live with greater depth, resilience, and hope.

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    58 mins
  • Singing in Unison: Bonhoeffer on Community and the Ego (A Conversation with Pastor Chip Frontz, Part 2)
    Oct 29 2025

    Bonhoeffer once warned that those who love their dream of community more than the community itself destroy it. In this episode, Maurice, David, and Pastor Chip Frontz look closely at Life Together and what it means to receive community as a gift, not a project. Their conversation ranges from church choirs to pastoral leadership, asking how unity, humility, and discernment shape the life we share.

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    53 mins
  • Bonhoeffer’s Reality Check: Receiving the Church as God’s Gift
    Oct 15 2025

    Pastor Maurice “Chip” Frontz joins hosts the Rev. Maurice Lee and Dr. David Luy to explore how Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s realism grounds ministry in what’s given—the actual people and community God has placed before us. Together they reflect on the pitfalls of idealized visions of church life, the call to gratitude, and the freeing truth that pastors are not called to improve their congregations but to love and pray for them.

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    28 mins
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