Episodes

  • 027: Amy Gustincic & Jay Ganaden of AIGA San Francisco

    027: Amy Gustincic & Jay Ganaden of AIGA San Francisco
    Feb 7 2026

    Amy Gustincic and Jay Ganaden both served as presidents of AIGA San Francisco—at different times, but with a shared passion for community, creativity, and experimentation. In this episode, they reflect on the wild ride of shaping SF’s chapter culture, from designing risk-friendly programming to redefining who AIGA is really for.


    From parties that made the fire marshal nervous to retreats that sparked systemic change, they share lessons in leadership, legacy, and letting your weird ideas fly. Also: ghost tours, secret code names, and what happens when a national leader shows up and gets mistaken for security.

    Key Takeaways

    • Design is never neutral: Jay and Amy challenged who AIGA was for—and designed toward that
    • Let the vision be weird: AIGA SF’s best programming came from instinct, not consensus
    • Strategy that looked like a party: San Francisco’s signature move.
    • Lead with impact, not polish: Jay reminds us that systems work beats showmanship
    • Make your own template: They both pushed back on “default AIGA” in favor of community-first design


    Key Moments in This Episode


    01:05 – The earliest memories: student chapters, ghost tours, and blurry lines between volunteer and friend

    03:40 – Amy’s presidency: events, vibes, and pushing the SF board into its weird era

    06:00 – Jay’s turn: building a chapter brand that challenged national assumptions

    08:25 – The party as strategy: from venues that smelled like cat pee to community as curation

    12:40 – Fires, fire marshals, and the time Jay was mistaken for security

    15:50 – Retreats and realignment: translating vibes into systems

    18:30 – Leadership friction: why resisting default settings is part of the job

    21:15 – After the presidency: when impact shows up in unexpected places

    24:00 – Advice for future board members: don’t wait for permission

    About Our Guests


    Amy Gustincic is a designer and strategist based in the Bay Area, leading Studio Bellwether for over 15 years. She works with creative teams and organizations to articulate vision, align stakeholders, and turn possibility into reality. She also served as a past AIGA SF president, helping shape the chapter’s legacy of design-forward leadership.


    Jay Ganaden is an experience strategy leader and creative executive, currently at Adobe. His career spans tech, finance, and design sectors—bringing a human-centered lens to complex systems and brand experiences. A former AIGA SF president, he believes deeply in “build it yourself” community-making, and using design as a mechanism for belonging.

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    Guest Amy Gustincic, connect on LinkedIn

    Guest Jay Ganaden, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn



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    51 mins
  • 026: Allan Espiritu & Nick Prestileo of AIGA Philadelphia

    026: Allan Espiritu & Nick Prestileo of AIGA Philadelphia
    Jan 17 2026

    Allan Espiritu and Nick Prestileo didn’t set out to build a gallery, host legendary parties, or flip a mattress at an AIGA retreat—but somehow, they did all three. In this episode, the former AIGA Philadelphia presidents unpack a leadership era driven by joy, generosity, and a heavy dose of “why not?” They reflect on building a design community from the ground up, earning national credibility without losing their weirdness, and how trust, good vibes, and some tequila under the sink made Philly one of the most iconic chapters in AIGA history. Also: Art Chantry with a hammer, getting locked in a closet during an opening, and the power of just saying yes.


    Key Takeaways

    • Say yes, then figure it out: Nick’s “yes-man” energy led to leadership, chaos, and deep connection
    • Joy is strategy: Allan led with fun and intention—not formality—and it worked
    • Improv leadership works: The Philly board thrived on a “yes, and” model
    • Make the rules you want to follow: Their chapter challenged AIGA norms and still pulled off a national retreat
    • Design community is real: Lifelong friendships, national networks, and a bar under the bathroom sink prove it


    Key Moments in This Episode

    00:55 – First AIGA impressions: From Manhattan design to mutual funds and velvet curtains

    03:10 – Allan’s big goal: Build community, make Philly matter nationally

    08:30 – Building a gallery, a vibe, and a keg-fueled design hangout

    16:40 – Spody, sponsorships, and mystery wine in milk bottles

    21:50 – The bathroom bar: Allan’s secret stash under the sink

    28:40 – Salt Lake City retreat: colonial costumes and on-stage panic

    35:40 – After-after-parties: A ruined mattress and a disassembled sink

    42:10 – Leading by vibes: how Allan brought out the best in everyone

    46:30 – The “yes, and” board: fun first, excellence followed


    About Our Guests

    Allan Espiritu is a designer, educator, and founder of GDLOFT PHL. He served as President of AIGA Philadelphia and is Chair of Graphic Design at Rutgers–Camden. Known for blending creative rigor with rebellious energy, Allan helped put Philly’s design scene—and its parties—on the map.


    Nick Prestileo is a creative operations leader, design educator, and former AIGA Philadelphia President. Known for his spreadsheet skills, mascot costumes, and unstoppable yes-saying, Nick helped build one of AIGA’s most memorable chapter cultures.

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    Guest Allan Espiritu, connect on LinkedIn

    Guest Nick Prestileo, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn



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    50 mins
  • 025: Debbie Millman & Michael Bierut of AIGA New York

    025: Debbie Millman & Michael Bierut of AIGA New York
    Dec 20 2025
    Before they were design royalty, Debbie Millman and Michael Bierut both remember what it felt like to be on the outside. Debbie got kicked out of an AIGA special interest group for doing work that was “too commercial.” Michael, working at one of design’s most prestigious studios, felt like a dinosaur compared to the experimental West Coast crowd.In the late 1990s, before you could connect with designers online, AIGA was the only game in town. And getting seated next to the right person at a leadership dinner could change everything.This is the story of how two people who didn’t quite fit in helped transform AIGA from an exclusive club into something more like a real community—one email, one dinner, one “yes” at a time.Key TakeawaysAIGA retreats were the only channel: Before digital, sitting next to the right person at dinner could change your career.Both sides felt excluded: Too experimental and too commercial designers have been shut out by AIGA—sometimes at the same timeGetting kicked out taught inclusion: Being told her work was too commercial shaped how Debbie led as president.Leadership means making space: Especially for people who feel like outsiders.Saying yes builds community: To emails, invitations, and people who aren’t in the club.AIGA survived by embracing change: Desktop publishing, the internet, social media—every threat became an evolution.Key Moments in This Episode03:08 – The dinner that changed everything: Debbie sits next to Michael at the Baltimore leadership retreat11:06 – Why that first dinner mattered: AIGA felt elitist, and the warmth of one conversation shifted everything12:33 – The evolution question: Milton Glaser voices what democratizing AIGA will mean for the organization's identity18:46 – Getting kicked out: Debbie is removed from the brand experience group for being too commercial27:59 – AIGA’s impact on career: Both credit the organization as essential to their success30:12 – Before digital connection existed: AIGA was the only way designers could meet each other49:23 – Leadership advice: When in doubt, say yes52:58 – Making people feel seen: Why Michael still answers every email he receivesAbout Our GuestsDebbie Millman is one of the most influential voices in contemporary design. Her podcast Design Matters is celebrating 20 years of documenting design culture with over 500 episodes, while her leadership at AIGA and SVA has helped democratize access to design education and community. A prolific author, brand consultant, and artist, she's built a career on the belief that design should be inclusive, intellectually rigorous, and deeply human.Michael Bierut is a designer's designer—a Pentagram partner for 35 years (now semi-retired) whose client work is matched by his contributions to design discourse and education. From co-founding Design Observer to serving as AIGA President during a pivotal era of digital transformation, he's helped shape how designers think about their profession. For over three decades, he's taught at Yale School of Art, where his influence extends far beyond any single project or logo.FeaturingGuest Debbie Millman, connect on LinkedInGuest Michael Beirut, connect on LinkedInHost Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedInHost Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn Support the ShowTheme music: Loose Ends by Silver Ships Plastic OceansProduced by Chapter 2 MediaSubscribe to the Together by Design newsletter for more community-building and podcast episode updatesSponsored by: Able Made, The Original Off Pitch Soccer Style: shop nowSponsored by: Draplin Design Company, check us out!Sponsored by: The People's Graphic Design Archive: browse, contribute, and research
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    55 mins
  • 024: Carlos Estrada of AIGA Detroit & Oen Michael Hammonds of AIGA Austin

    024: Carlos Estrada of AIGA Detroit & Oen Michael Hammonds of AIGA Austin
    Dec 6 2025
    Carlos Estrada and Oen Michael Hammonds have never worked in the same city, but they’ve long shared the same goal: making AIGA a more inclusive, welcoming space for everyone. In this episode, they reflect on decades of volunteer leadership across chapters, task forces, and national roles, while swapping stories about moments that changed them, students that inspired them, and the value of making space for others to shine.From barstool pivots to back-to-back retreats, they unpack what it really means to lead with purpose, listen with humility, and make the design world feel a little less lonely. Key TakeawaysMentorship multiplies: Both Oen and Carlos credit student connections as their reason for staying in AIGA for the long haul.Listening matters: Some of the best leadership moments come from pausing, not pushing.Lead from the middle: Being on the team doesn’t always mean being in the spotlight.Keep the ladder down: They’ve both benefitted from people making space—and now they do the same.Representation matters: Seeing someone like you can shift an entire career path.Key Moments in This Episode00:55 – First AIGA impressions: A bar conversation that leads to decades of service03:20 – From Puerto Rico to Detroit: Carlos finds design and identity at work05:10 – Sorority house, party of one: Oen’s student housing surprises07:40 – Finding community at AIGA Austin and AIGA Detroit09:30 – Retreats that reveal real leadership: especially the awkward ones12:20 – Letting others lead: why stepping back is a power move16:45 – Students, stories, and staying connected20:10 – The task force that changed everything24:40 – Designing inclusion vs. checking boxes27:00 – How local culture shaped each chapter’s evolution30:50 – Advice for future leaders: Make space, then hold it34:10 – The quiet confidence that builds belongingAbout Our GuestsCarlos Estrada is a Creative Director and Information Architect with two decades of experience in print and digital design. He specializes in typography, interaction, and brand strategy—using design as a tool for communication and problem-solving. He’s worked with clients from Herman Miller to grassroots nonprofits and serves in AIGA leadership as Equity Chair and Detroit President. He also mentors through multiple community programs, championing inclusive design and meaningful impact.Oen Michael Hammonds is a Senior Design Director who works at the intersection of design and business, guiding the strategy and delivery of experiences that support clear goals and real user needs. He partners across teams to build scalable, human-centered solutions. He also teaches globally and mentors early- and mid-career designers, sharing honest stories about the challenges and victories that shape a design career.FeaturingGuest Carlos Estrada, connect on LinkedInGuest Oen Michael Hammonds, connect on LinkedInHost Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedInHost Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn Support the ShowTheme music: Loose Ends by Silver Ships Plastic OceansProduced by Chapter 2 MediaSubscribe to the Together by Design newsletter for more community-building and podcast episode updatesSponsored by: Able Made, The Original Off Pitch Soccer Style: shop nowSponsored by: Draplin Design Company, check us out!Sponsored by: The People's Graphic Design Archive: browse, contribute, and research
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    56 mins
  • 023: Carolyn Colonna & Taylor Nall of AIGA Charlotte

    023: Carolyn Colonna & Taylor Nall of AIGA Charlotte
    Nov 8 2025

    Two presidents of the same scrappy Charlotte chapter share what it’s like to step up without a roadmap. In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, we sit down with Carolyn Colonna and Taylor Nall, who each led AIGA Charlotte through very different moments of growth and experimentation.


    They talk about the unexpected ways they found AIGA, what it means to lead with trust instead of ego, and why showing up with openness (and a well-placed DM) can create real change. There’s a quiet kind of bravery in simply showing up—and these two prove it matters.

    Key Takeaways

    • Don’t wait for permission: Carolyn stepped into the presidency during a leadership gap—without a plan, but with purpose.
    • Cold DMs work: Taylor reached out to AIGA before he even graduated, and ended up president.
    • Trust is everything: Both leaders focused on vulnerability and connection, not titles.
    • Design solves everything: Even event engagement—just ask the Mullet Meter.
    • Leave it better: Good leaders set others up to thrive after they’re gone.


    Key Moments in This Episode

    • 00:40 – Carolyn’s accidental presidency: stepping up during a leadership gap
    • 03:20 – Taylor’s cold DM: reaching out to AIGA before graduating
    • 06:05 – From college volunteer to board president: Taylor’s rise
    • 08:10 – Leading with trust: Carolyn’s core approach
    • 10:40 – Building the next team: why mentorship mattered
    • 13:00 – Bridging leadership styles: collaborative handoffs and honest reflection
    • 15:10 – The Mullet Meter: a playful way to track event vibes
    • 16:30 – What future leaders need: permission, support, and follow-through


    About Our Guests


    Carolyn Colonna is a designer and creative leader based in Boston, MA. Her early career was spent in North Carolina where she helped steer AIGA Charlotte through a leadership gap with a human-centered, trust-first approach. Today she continues to create experiences and environments where creativity and connection thrive.


    Taylor Nall is the VP of Technology for carbonhouse, a digital agency based in Charlotte, North Carolina and was AIGA Charlotte’s youngest chapter president. He brought a fresh take on leadership, proving that initiative, authenticity, and a good sense of humor can take you far.

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    Guest Carolyn Colonna, connect on LinkedIn

    Guest Taylor Nall, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn

    Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn


    Support the Show

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    48 mins
  • 022: Jenn Visocky O’Grady of AIGA Cleveland & Justin Ahrens of AIGA Arizona and Chicago

    022: Jenn Visocky O’Grady of AIGA Cleveland & Justin Ahrens of AIGA Arizona and Chicago
    Oct 18 2025
    What do pyramid photos, Harry Potter, and a karaoke dare from Debbie Millman have in common? They’re all part of Jenn Visocky O’Grady and Justin Ahrens’ journey through AIGA leadership—and proof that the best design stories don’t always happen on stage. In this episode, they reflect on 20+ years of retreats, road trips, poster campaigns, and unexpected friendships. From building student chapters and Design for Good initiatives to scaling purpose-driven work through their careers, they show how showing up (and sometimes singing) can change everything.Key TakeawaysYou had to earn it: Retreats weren’t perks—they were rewards for doing the work.Brave questions open doors: Jenn’s habit of speaking up led to a lifelong friendship.Design for Good made waves: Local efforts grew into national campaigns with real impact.Relationships were the pipeline: Conferences led to collaborations, career moves—and family vacations.Small chapters mattered: Big ideas came from all corners, not just the coasts.You don’t need to pyramid: Even the cautious (hi Jenn) found their place—and their people.Key Moments in This Episode00:45 – Meeting at Austin: Jenn and Justin cross paths at a leadership retreat and bond over a big design question04:15 – Chapter to national: How local board service led to the AIGA national stage06:40 – Design family: Retreats became the annual reunion neither of them wanted to miss08:40 – Commitment check: Rachel skips a cousin’s wedding to attend the Denver retreat10:00 – Heroes, humanized: From Debbie Millman karaoke to airport pickups with Kit Hinrichs12:20 – One brave question: Jenn speaks up, Justin notices—and a friendship begins17:55 – Chaos and costumes: Pizza suits, pyramid photos, and how scale gave projects life23:45 – Real-world prep: AIGA board service trained them for academic and agency leadership30:45 – What’s “good” now?: Memes, AI, and the missing design role models44:50 – Path to Impact: How one national initiative started with 200 members in ClevelandAbout Our GuestsJenn Visocky O’Grady Jenn is Associate Dean and full professor at Cleveland State University, co-founder of AIGA Cleveland’s student chapter, and co-author of The Information Design Handbook (and three other books) with her husband Ken. Her design work has appeared in How, Print, and Communication Arts. These days she leads a massive academic department and still finds time for pyramid photos, family vacations, and community impact. Also known as “Safety Jen.”Justin Ahrens Justin is Chief Creative Officer of Rule29, a Certified B Corp focused on using design to create positive impact. He’s a TEDx speaker, podcast host (Design Of, Creative Shit Show), and co-creator of initiatives like Wheels for Water, which helped bring clean water access to over 20,000 people. He believes in community, vulnerability, and big swings—and credits AIGA for the most meaningful friendships in his life.FeaturingGuest Jenn Visocky O’Grady, connect on LinkedInGuest Justin Ahrens, connect on LinkedInHost Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedInHost Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedInSupport the ShowTheme music: Loose Ends by Silver Ships Plastic OceansProduced by Chapter 2 MediaSubscribe to the Together by Design newsletter for more community-building and podcast episode updatesSponsored by: Able Made, The Original Off Pitch Soccer Style: shop nowSponsored by: Draplin Design Company, check us out!Sponsored by: The People's Graphic Design Archive: browse, contribute, and research
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    51 mins
  • 021: Laurel Webster & James Hersick of AIGA Blue Ridge

    021: Laurel Webster & James Hersick of AIGA Blue Ridge
    Sep 30 2025
    Two leaders who first met at an AIGA conference and ended up married share how a small but mighty chapter built national programs—and how retreats, late nights, and a little chaos shaped their leadership journey. Laurel Webster and James “Jamey” Hersick trace their path from student chapters and dissolving boards to facilitating competitions like Flux, pulling off unforgettable events, and carrying design-for-good values into their client work. Along the way, they recount pyramids, beer swaps, and 6 a.m. lobby hangouts that turned colleagues into lifelong friends.Key TakeawaysSmall chapters, big impact: Even under 100 members, Blue Ridge launched programs like Flux and Mock Up that went national.Jumping in works: Both Laurel and Jamey stepped into leadership without a roadmap and kept their chapter alive.Retreats change everything: Omaha, Denver, Grand Rapids, and Raleigh weren’t just meetings—they were accelerators for ideas and friendships.Traditions matter: Human pyramids, beer swaps, and the “6 a.m. club” became part of AIGA lore.Design for Good lives on: Early AIGA initiatives continue to guide their purpose-driven client work.Core values lead the way: Defining principles helped them align business, life, and leadership.Key Moments in This Episode00:45 – Meeting at Pivot: Laurel and Jamey cross paths in Phoenix over a Design for Good panel and one unforgettable question.03:40 – Long-distance beginnings: Flying between West Virginia and California before deciding to make it official.06:15 – From treasurer to president: Jamey’s reluctant start in Blue Ridge leadership.07:40 – Jumping into the deep end: Laurel volunteers to be chapter president just months after moving cross-country.09:10 – Small but mighty: How Blue Ridge grew student programming and turned Flux into an international competition.13:25 – Retreat icebreakers: Jamey’s first encounter with Debbie Millman—and Omaha’s unforgettable Embassy Suites jungle.16:20 – Pyramid initiation: Laurel’s first glimpse of the human pyramid tradition at Grand Rapids.18:50 – Beer swaps and rooftop hangs: Why retreat room parties built lasting connections.20:30 – Finding belonging: When retreats transformed AIGA from cliquish to “these are my people.”25:20 – Lessons that stick: How facilitation, mentorship, and collaboration still shape their client work today.27:40 – From design to place: Current projects helping Alabama communities connect history, heritage, and future growth.34:40 – Core values in the air: A plane ride that pushed them to define personal and business principles.36:10 – Power of intimacy: Why small chapters created trust, agency, and innovation.40:00 – Punching above their weight: Blue Ridge’s Mock Up, mentoring tours, and even high school outreach.About Our GuestsLaurel Webster is Principal and Creative Director of Hersick+Webster Creative Partners, the brand marketing agency she co-founded with her husband, James. Their award-winning work helps purpose-driven organizations create meaningful solutions for people and places, earning recognition from GDUSA, Print, and the Art Director’s Club. A California native now based in West Virginia, Laurel also serves on local nonprofit boards, teaches yoga, and stays busy with long-distance running, two sons, and three dogs.James Hersick is Principal and Director of Strategy and Design Impact at Hersick+Webster Creative Partners, where he draws on more than 20 years of experience to help organizations build thriving, purpose-driven communities. His work spans five continents and has been honored by GDUSA, Print, and the Art Director’s Club. Active in his local community as a board member and organizer, James is also a writer, artist, and outdoorsman—when he’s not busy being Dad to two boys and three dogs.FeaturingGuest Laurel Webster, connect on LinkedInGuest James Hersick, connect on LinkedInHost Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedInHost Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedInSupport the ShowTheme music: Loose Ends by Silver Ships Plastic OceansProduced by Chapter 2 MediaSubscribe to the Together by Design newsletter for more community-building and podcast episode updatesSponsored by: Able Made, The Original Off Pitch Soccer Style: shop nowSponsored by: Draplin Design Company, check us out!Sponsored by: The People's Graphic Design Archive: browse, contribute, and research
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    45 mins
  • 020: Kevin Berger & Aaron Shurts of AIGA Seattle

    020: Kevin Berger & Aaron Shurts of AIGA Seattle
    Sep 13 2025
    Two longtime friends turned co-leaders share how they built AIGA Seattle like a business—and kept the fun alive with hot dogs, karaoke, and pyramids. Kevin Berger and Aaron Shurts recount their journey from board interviews and budget struggles to building sustainable programming and epic conferences. Along the way, they reveal the bonds that leadership retreats created (and the legendary late-night antics that made them unforgettable).Key TakeawaysRun chapters like businesses: Sustainable structure beats constant one-off burnout.Financial stewardship matters: Turning deficits into reserves made big programs possible.Retreats are culture accelerators: They forged instant friendships and solved common challenges across chapters.Traditions build bonds: Pyramids, karaoke, and late-night hot dog runs made retreats unforgettable.Mentorship pays forward: Early AIGA leaders inspired Kevin and Aaron to support the next generation.Leadership translates: Board lessons built confidence, shaped careers, and even extended into new adventures beyond design.Key Moments in This Episode00:21 – From students to presidents: Kevin and Aaron trace their paths into AIGA Seattle leadership, from board interviews to co-leading the chapter. 05:46 – Building structure like a business: How they shifted Seattle’s chapter from burnout one-offs to sustainable programs like Schmooze. 10:33 – Turning red into black: Facing down a negative budget, they created financial sustainability and rebuilt the chapter’s reserves. 14:20 – Into the Woods: The origin of Seattle’s beloved design camp, and the struggle to make big conferences both meaningful and solvent. 20:52 – Connections that matter: Kevin recalls how early mentors like Terry Marks and Jesse Duquillo inspired him to pay it forward to young designers. 29:14 – Retreat revelations: Why leadership retreats felt like “college on steroids,” with instant connections and problem-solving across chapters. 36:40 – Hot dog diplomacy: The unforgettable 3 a.m. Denver street-corner memory—bonding quietly over hot dogs amid city chaos. 42:12 – Pyramid time: How spontaneous human pyramids became the unofficial leadership-retreat tradition (yes, even in elevators). 48:29 – Swim-off showdown: Aaron’s hilarious “race” against Raleigh president Matt Enios—complete with sabotage. 55:18 – Karaoke choreography: Aaron’s Proud Mary performance—with full backup dancers—cemented his legend at retreat karaoke. 1:05:42 – Beyond AIGA: Life after board service—Kevin focused on agency leadership, while Aaron became a certified charter captain leading fishing trips. About Our GuestsKevin Berger is Executive Creative Director and Partner at Graphiti, where he’s led creative strategy for Amazon, Starbucks, Tableau, and more. He served as Programming Director, VP, and President of AIGA Seattle, helping stabilize its programs and finances.Aaron Shurts is Founder and Principal of Mentor Creative Group, a Seattle-based design and technology agency. With over two decades of experience, he’s held leadership roles at Deloitte Digital, taught at the Art Institutes, and served as AIGA Seattle Vice President and President. Outside design, Aaron is a certified charter captain leading marine adventures in the Pacific Northwest.FeaturingGuest Kevin Berger, connect on LinkedInGuest Aaron Shurts, connect on LinkedInHost Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedInHost Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedInSupport the ShowTheme music: Loose Ends by Silver Ships Plastic OceansProduced by Chapter 2 MediaSubscribe to the Together by Design newsletter for more community-building and podcast episode updatesSponsored by: Able Made, The Original Off Pitch Soccer Style: shop nowSponsored by: Draplin Design Company, check us out!Sponsored by: The People's Graphic Design Archive: browse, contribute, and research
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    48 mins