Episode 2: What does it mean to try and imagine a future not just after collapse, but while the collapse is still happening?

Mohammed Usrof, Palestinian researcher and co-founder of the Palestinian Institute for Climate Strategy, talks about energy sovereignty, the case for fossil fuel embargoes, and why art, politics and liberation can never be disentangled.

Usrof is an organiser and anti-imperialist thinker whose work sits at the intersection of climate justice, energy political economy and decolonial development. As the co-founder and Executive Director of PICS, a Palestinian-led research and advocacy organisation, he's advancing analysis on climate, energy and environmental injustice under conditions of occupation, militarisation and uneven development. He is also currently a PhD candidate researching energy sovereignty, fossil fuel histories and refineries in Palestine and the wider region.

🎵 Song choice: Spoils by Massive Attack featuring Hope Sandoval

Find Mohammed / PICS: palclimateinstitute.org

Sounds Like Change is a podcast about how music, sound and storytelling help us stay human, hopeful, and build the courage to shape a more just future. Hosted by Ariana Alexander-Sefre. linktr.ee/soundslikechange

About the host: Ariana Alexander-Sefre has spent over a decade working at the intersection of music and social justice. An Iranian-British social innovator, she is the founder of SPOKE, a TEDx speaker, and an SXSW Innovation Award winner.

A Drowned in Sound Network production. Edited by Tell Studio.