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Code 3 - The Firefighters Podcast

Code 3 - The Firefighters Podcast

Written by: Scott Orr
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The podcast for and about firefighters, "Code 3" covers topics of interest to those in the fire service, in about 20 minutes. We take one subject, one guest, and get it done. We don't waste your time.Copyright by Scott Orr. All Rights Reserved. Careers Economics Personal Success Social Sciences
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  • Making the Grab with D.J. Stone
    Jan 15 2026

    There’s a lot of talk about "making the grab" in this job. But how often do you actually break down what went right when a rescue is successful?

    Not just the tools, but the mindset, the assignments, and the split-second decisions made in the first few minutes.

    After the high-fives and backslapping, it’s time to analyze how you did it. So you’ll do it right the next time, too.

    And to look at your mistakes, so you can avoid them the next time.

    My guest today has turned that breakdown into a science. D.J. Stone is a Battalion Chief with the South Walton Fire District in Florida. He’s the creator of "The Grab Analysis," a program that dissects real-world rescues—captured on video—to teach firefighters exactly how to prioritize the search and get victims out alive.

    On this edition of Code 3, we discuss aggressive search culture, the "850" method, and why preparation starts long before the tones drop.

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    22 mins
  • Stretch, Charge, Flow, and Move with Daryl Liggins
    Jan 8 2026

    We often talk about the fireground as a chaotic environment, because it is.

    But there is a tendency in the modern fire service to meet that chaos with complexity—adding more gadgets, more steps, and more theories to what is, at its heart, a simple physical battle.

    When the heat is high and visibility is zero, complexity is the enemy. It slows you down. And in this job, slow can be fatal—in fact, it has been.

    So, how do we strip away the noise and get back to what actually puts the fire out?

    Today, we’re going to discuss the "Keep It Simple" philosophy. We’ll talk about why firefighters need to slow down, the specific mechanics of a good hose stretch, and why the most advanced piece of technology on the fireground is still a well-trained firefighter with a nozzle.

    My guest today believes the answer lies in four simple words: Stretch. Charge. Flow. And Move.

    Daryl Liggins is a retired Training Captain from the Oakland Fire Department, a department known for its aggressive interior culture and heavy fire duty. Throughout his career, Daryl has been a student of the engine company. He has championed the idea that mastering the basics isn’t about being "old school"—it’s about being effective.

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    22 mins
  • Venting the Roof: When, Where, and How with Nicholas Papa
    Nov 2 2025

    Do you know exactly how vertical ventilation works?

    Depending on your level of experience, you may think you do, but you still might not have a really solid understanding of why it works. Simply cutting a random 4x4-foot hole in the roof won't do the job in all cases.

    My guest today has a good deal of experience as a firefighter, but he admits that, until he saw a live fire test, he misunderstood how cutting a hole in the roof affects the fire.

    We’ll talk about that, as well as when it’s the best time to vent the roof, how dangerous it is to work up there, how handlines can be used to move air and smoke with it, and how much training firefighters need to remain proficient in roof operations.

    Nicholas Papa is a 17-year veteran of the New Britain, Connecticut, Fire Department, where he’s a captain. He became a firefighter in 2003, volunteering for a neighboring suburb until he was hired by New Britain. He is the author of the book Coordinating Ventilation: Supporting Extinguishment & Survivability.

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    28 mins
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