• The Forever Revolution with Jenni Gritters, Multi-Passionate
    Mar 18 2026
    Connecting the Dots with The Renaissance People is coming full circle for this tenth episode! The woman I first encountered via her podcast, is now a guest on my own show! Regular listeners will know the name of my career coach, and fellow multi-passionate, Jenni Gritters. In this episode, we discuss the importance of community, the evolution of our career paths, and the significance of embracing your complexity without apology (along with tips for explaining that complexity to others). We go off on delightful tangents around systems thinking, the role of coaching in our careers, and the power of intuition and imagination in decision-making. We connect the dots to neuroscience and etymology —two topics we both adore —and discuss how they can help us understand where we’re going.And I found out a few juice nuggets that even Jenni’s most loyal followers might not even know about, so stick around to the end!Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):Sign up for updates on my podcast and what's happening in the Renaissance People CommunityJenni’s Book The Sustainable SolopreneurWaters Center for Systems Thinking – Habits of a Systems Thinker CardsLinkedIn post about teen specializing in the summer to prepare for college applicationsThe Serendipity Mindset by Christian BuschWorld Builders podcast episode with Lindsay MacMillanAn incredible study on imaginationAnd another fun piece on memory & imagination That’s What They Say, Michigan Public Radio podcastGrammar Girl podcastTelepathy Tapes (Season 2 especially for the early science of more "woo" practices)The Latest Science of Growth Mindset with Carol Dweck ("The Psychology Podcast" on YouTube)The Clearing Jenni's"free monthly community gathering and community coaching session designed help you create meaning, release what isn’t yours to carry, and ignite new (collaborative) insights — timed with the seasons”The World Builders podcast | websiteFollow Jenni on Social Media:LinkedIn | Instagram | SubstackA few things Jenni and I discuss:3:59 How Jenni helped inspire this podcast5:18 Jenni’s many iterations8:46 How Jenni created spaces of belonging as a multi-passionate11:01 The appeal of journalism for multi-passionates13:16 Pattern recognition and systems thinking18:40 How naming eras can help explain your expanding identities22:00 How freedom makes you magnetic27:33 Thinking of our career as a non-linear journey31:02 Thinking outside the box and using imagination to find inspiration33:02 Trusting intuition and getting out of your own way42:27 Improv Game45:43 Shout out to our supportive husbands47:14 Rapidish Fire Questions50:39 Our shared love of etymology and neuroscience54:0 The athletic and growth mindset in Renaissance PeopleQuotes from the episode: (Jenni) We had children at the same time. We were like drowning in the pandemic at the same time. We were leaving our careers at the same time. So it's just, it's very much an honor to be here. And I feel like I've been with you for all the transitions that birthed this podcast too, like you said. So pretty damn magical.(Jenni) I'm also the founder of a company that I am currently building called World Builders, which is basically an ecosystem, a hub for people like us to come in and learn how to step into our wealth and our visibility and all these things that come back to the fact that we were told probably for most of our lives, that our brains were not normal. And so it's a whole space of people like us, who are very explosively creative, who change their minds a lot. Who can't be summed up in one phrase. Right? I always joke, I change my bio on my social media profile like every three months.(Jenni) But I'm not trying to make people like me anymore. Like I just think it's a zero-sum game. I don't think I'm ever gonna make sense to people, Sara!(Sara) Yeah. We're too much. That's what I have in my LinkedIn About section, you know, I'm too much for some people and that's OK.(Jenni) Totally!(Sara) You've talked about a level of magnetism that I think comes about when you become more confident in yourself and stop apologizing for the complexity. Because other people want that confidence. When I've had career coaching clients, when I did my Renaissance Readers and we read the book Range, that's the number one thing people tell me that I am able to provide them, is increased confidence in their value as Renaissance People.(Jenni) Mmm hmm. I know. (Sara) Because the world has been telling them, you're too much. You're overwhelming me. For me, it was “you're the teacher's pet” because you want to be friends and you wanna please the teacher, which, OK, there's problems with the teacher's pet side of things. But, there's also the fact that I LIKED my teachers and they were interesting people and they're older than me and they know more than me. So I wanna learn from them! (Jenni) And you love learning, right? I mean, I think that it's exactly right. People who are free are very ...
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  • A Mind for Memory with Brian Skellenger, Survivalist
    Mar 5 2026
    This episode is a family affair! I’m joined by my younger brother Brian Skellenger, the voice and creative spirit behind this podcast’s theme song. I also view him as a Renaissance Person, a label we debate over the course of the episode (in true sibling fashion). In this show, I share how my thoughts around the term “Renaissance Person” and the idea of a “Renaissance Mindset” have been morphing.We also talk about the pros and cons of having a Renaissance Woman as an older sister, how our parents’ careers influenced our mindset, the power of improv, and being drawn to fellow Renaissance People (and NYC as a hotspot for finding them). Plus, I think you’ll be intrigued by Brian’s thought process as he designed this show’s theme song, at least I was!Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):Sign up for updates on my podcast and what's happening in the Renaissance People Community.Episode 7 Stephanie CastilloRange: Why Generalists Thrive in a Specialized World by David EpsteinReview of the play “Vestibular Sense” from Minnesota Public RadioTake it With You newsletter for job seekersPacking Your Skillset Suitcase newsletter issueAFI’s 100 Years…100 Movies downloadable list of “the 100 greatest American movies of all time” (released in 1998 and updated with a 10-year anniversary list in 2007, which isn’t actually 10 years so I don’t understand their math)What are Overtones? YouTube Short video by Eric MartinOVERTONES! What are overtones? What do they sound like? Longer YouTube video explaining the science of overtones more deeply by KHensenMusic and all sorts of awesome examples from singing groupsWater Whys Spring 2026 Visual SciComm Seminar SeriesMaking Math Inclusive for Everyone with Microsoft 365 blog post by Peter WuLinkedIn post by Sara Shunkwiler about the new #Microsoft365Math hashtag with link to recording of talk about math accessibility (and the post she’s resharing talks about being a survivor, even more serendipity)LinkedIn post by Ailee Dixon announcing her new role as a Blind Disability & STEM Equity AdvocateMagnet Theater in Manhattan, NYC. Performance schedule for Brian’s improv team, Lil’ Spoon.Follow Brian on Social Media:Instagram | YouTubeA few things Brian and I discuss:2:09 Brian’s rejection of my potential terms for his identity, why he feels like a “survivalist”, and he defines the term.6:22 How my definition of “Renaissance Person” and the “Renaissance Mindset” is morphing9:02 Big sister Sara embarrasses her little brother11:44 Living in the shadow of a Renaissance Person older sibling and finding theater14:52 The impact of our parents’ careers on our mindset20:55 The power of improv (and why Renaissance People are particularly good at it)25:20 Rejecting hyper specialization31:35 Brian’s performance in the show ‘Vestibular Sense” and how his Renaissance Mindset helped him land the lead role’34:50 The toolkit of skills we bring with us throughout our career36:05 How connecting the dots means being empathetic in the arts38:27 Being drawn to fellow Renaissance People42:06 Brian’s though process in creating the Connecting the Dots with The Renaissance People theme song48:28 Improv Game with the snarkiest response yet to “You know you’re a Renaissance Person if…”50:27 Rapidish Fire Questions52:10 Why our childhood jobs at a movie rental store were great Renaissance Person jobs56:07 The challenge of math accessibility for blind or visually impaired learners (and Sara’s upcoming free virtual seminar speakers on the topic)58:07 Why you should go to Magnet Theater if you’re in Manhattan on a Thursday evening to see musical improv (and possibly Brian’s improv team)Quotes from the episode:(Brian) Well, of course I couldn't pick anything that you picked for me!(Sara) Oh, course not! Big sister can't tell you what to do.(Brian) I have to be an original.(Brian) At least maybe other people like you would say that I am a Renaissance Person or something. But I picked a word and then I like looked it up and it has a completely different meaning. So I'm changing the meaning of this word...(Sara) Do it!(Brian) Like, beware Webster's Dictionary. You're getting a new entry!(Sara) He's in a fighting mood!(Brian) Exactly!(Brian) I do agree that, while I don't necessarily consider myself a Renaissance Person, I do think that I have a well-rounded skillset and mindset. And I think part of that was like, I mean, I'm sure some of that is just genetic or whatever. But I think having you as an older sibling to model sort of like, you can be good at everything if you want to be. If you have the aptitude for it. That set the bar pretty high, which was both daunting, but also freeing in a way(Sara) Yeah.(Brian) I didn't feel super self-conscious about like being interested in a wide variety of things when some other kids were sort of hyper specializing.(Brian) I figured out that I could sort of turn something that was an ...
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  • Queued for Thought - Conversations on Loneliness, Healing and Connecting, Part 1
    Feb 25 2026

    Welcome to Queued for Thought, a curated podcast playlist!

    I'm Renaissance Woman Sara Kobilka, host of the podcast Connecting the Dots with The Renaissance People.

    Queued for Thought is a project I've created where I get to practice that skill of connecting the dots between conversations happening in different realms.

    In this episode, I explain how these playlists will work and my personal philosophy on populating my podcast queue.

    This first playlist connects the dots between conversations around loneliness, healing and connecting. It features podcast episodes from A Bit of Optimism with Simon Sinek and Inquiring Minds.

    Check it out on the Listen Notes website and from there, subscribe to it on your favorite podcast streaming platform.

    Queued for Thought will come out sporadically when I’m feeling inspired. If you’d like to know each time a new episode drops, sign up for my Renaissance People Community listserv.

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  • Bringing Worlds Together Full Circle with Jess Rowell, Renaissance Woman
    Feb 18 2026
    This episode is what happens when I spend an hour chatting with a grad school friend about some of our favorite topics! I'm joined by Jess Rowell, a fellow Renaissance Woman, who teaches 6th and 8th grade science and STEM in Maryland. Jess discusses how her industry spanning career and world travels have impacted her teaching philosophy. We talk about the unique challenges the pandemic has created for her current 6th grade students and how she's connecting the dots for them during the school day. Jess shares her love of space (and not-so-secret desire to bring more space education to schools). Plus, we learn why boats are so important in her life.Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):Sign up for updates on my podcast and what's happening in the Renaissance People CommunityBook the poster “All I really need to know I learned in kindergarten” is based onCritique of phrase “Learning Loss” and another perspective on “learning loss”Knowles theory of Andragogy (adult learning theory)Obituary for UW-Madison Plants and Man professor Tim Allen (yes, I’m recommending you read an obituary) and another article about him which describes the “sandbox” I was honored to be part of briefly.Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared DiamondSisbro Productions Main Page | Kids Stuff ("The Marvelous Musical Report of the Marine National Monuments" is a video Jess shows every year on the last day of school) | “The Riddle in a Bottle” TrailerThe Science of Thinking videoDr. Derek Muller: The key to effective educational science videos | Veritasium ChannelEpisode 3 Melissa ViningJenni Gritters: Website | LinkedIn | InstagramEpisode 2 Nancy Scales CoddingtonNext Generation Science Standards introductory video by fellow MSSE graduate, Paul AndersenNASA Spinoffs Game | Main Page | Technology TransferFollow Jess on Social Media:LinkedIn | Instagram (Full Circle Wins) & Instagram (STEMJourneys)A few things Jess and I discuss:4:23 Our virtual grad school as preparation for COVID-19 pandemic adjustments5:57 Jess’s Venn Diagram8:09 Science vs STEM (and other acronyms)12:27 Integrating academic subjects across student’s school day18:21 Unique COVID impacts on current 6th graders due to kindergarten disruption21:37 The problem with the phrase “learning loss”24:44 Sharing the “why” behind what students are learning to get buy in31:18 Science integration resources38:17 Making people curious about you41:59 Telling stories to bring meaning to your message and work43:40 Improv Game44:27 Sara’s "Brain Dump" idea48:05 Rapidish Fire Questions53:16 Combining game development ideas with teaching/learningQuotes from the episode:(Jess) If you're a science teacher, you can be talking with the math teacher. You can be talking with the art teacher. You can be talking with the social studies teacher. And going at bare minimum, to see what their lessons are doing at that time. Looking at the whole day of a sixth grader and how we can be giving those bridges. I've been saying bridges, just for lack of a metaphorical term, how we can be working together to at least make that student's experience more cohesive.(Jess) What we're seeing now is just a completely, just unpracticed group of students. So I joke that we've just spent the last four months just getting these kids ready to do school. And that's something we do in September and Shocktober and not necessarily through January. So just now seeing our students develop those basic maturities to be available to learn.(Jess) If they're asked to write a claim, well that's a claim in one class, but a hook in a different class or vice versa. Like maybe we should just call it all claim or call it all hook. Because if we can make those things a little bit more similar, then they at least have that connection(Sara) How do you introduce your Renaissance Woman's self to somebody new who you're maybe hoping will fund your next big, way out there, wonderfully woven, connecting-the-dots idea. How do you introduce yourself to them so that they realize that you are this like complex, multi-passionate person, but not overwhelm them and talk their head off for 45 minutes when they just ask you, so tell me a little bit about yourself?(Jess) Oh, you always ask the hardest questions, Sara.(Sara) You know me, I like to jab it in there.(Jess) I've tried all sorts of different elevator speeches. I resonated with things like I help bring science and media full circle. That's one that's kind of worked for me because then that allows them to ask whatever question that they want, that they happen to get in that moment, to ask me the next question. Because if I try to push it all down somebody's throat, they're not gonna get it. So if you've got a little teaser aspect to it, then that seems to help a little bit.(Sara) Make them curious. Inspire curiosity.(Jess) Yeah. Make it their idea. Make curiosity their idea, not your idea.(Jess) Just about every major life-changing decision I've made has been on ...
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  • Pitching Your Own (Ph)uture With Stephanie Castillo, Jill-of-all-trades
    Feb 4 2026
    This week’s guest is the third person on this show from the realm of science communication (if you include me). Stephanie Castillo is a Jill-of-all-trades multimedia producer who creates science videos for YouTube. But the path to get here wasn’t easy. We discuss how she overcame her academic adversity to successfully pitch her own interdisciplinary PhD. We talk about our lives as lifelong learners, full of curiosity and a desire to do everything (and the importance of supportive parents for this lifestyle). Common themes from past episodes, include crossing boundaries, identity work, neurodivergence as well as our roles as dot connectors, arose as well.Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):Sign up for updates on my podcast and what's happening in the Renaissance People Community. Find our latest activities on my website.Generalist vs Specialist vs Versatilist articleComSciCon program for graduate studentsThree Star Coloring critique from the Occuplaytional TherapistCollaborations Across Scientific Disciplines, commissioned lit review for the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)Great science communicators on Instagram to check out (many are other platforms too): Alex Dainis, Maynard Okereke, Naomi Kohbelic, Harini Bhat, Jessica Knurick, Scientific AmericaReimagining STEM Workforce Development as a Braided River paperSciComm Hotline podcast hosted by Stephanie Castillo and Reyhaneh MaktoufiStephanie’s websiteFollow Stephanie on Social Media:YouTube | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTokA few things Stephanie and I discuss:1:36 Being a Jill-of-all-trades and the icky feelings around “generalist”5:32 Science communicators and versatility8:01 Stephanie’s bumpy ride from chemistry PhD to science communicator15:46 The importance of being interdisciplinary16:57 Lifelong learning, curiosity and creativity21:37 Communicating across boundaries27:26 Connecting the dots for scientists who want to use social media32:23 Using the umbrella term of “multimedia producer”34:21 A life of doing everything36:36 Neurodivergence in Renaissance People40:10 Parental support for experimenting and exploring41:58 Improv Game43:05 Identities and moving from “I am” to “I do”46:54 Rapidish Fire QuestionsQuotes from the episode:(Stephanie) How do you feel about the term generalist?(Sara) Interesting that you brought it up! Because I have a book club right now going on, called Renaissance Readers and we're reading Range by David Epstein. So the title of the book is Range: Why Generalists Thrive in a Specialized World. And the first question that I asked everybody in the group is, "What do you think of the word generalist? And across the board, everybody had icky vibes from it. And I too felt the same way.(Stephanie) I was told by my first advisor when I brought up my struggles that like, maybe I should just master out. I should just do my master's, you know. Maybe I'm not cut out for the PhD. And I'm like, that's not what I came to grad school for.(Stephanie) I've just always been like a lifelong learner. I just always like to learn and do different things. And so, growing up I tried every sport that I wanted to do. Like I always tried to teach myself how to craft different things. And so I felt like I was just always a curious and a tinkerer in the sense of I always wanted to be doing something, so I'll try everything. And so even now, I finished like a really large, exhausting gig. And I'm like, I'm gonna pick up embroidery. Like why not?(Stephanie) I think that's what kind of also lended itself for me having to force myself to be a Jack or Jill-of-all-trade. Especially as like a freelance science communicator. I'm often just a one woman band. And so I have to film myself. I have to edit myself. I have to pick the music. I have to write the script, fact check this. There's so much skills that go into just producing one video that can just be like a minute long(Sara) People underestimate...They have no idea how much...(Stephanie) Exactly! So much decision making goes into it. And even for those content creators that are just like in their rooms posting. It still takes effort and time and planning to make something that's worth people stopping their scroll to engage with.(Stephanie) It's just also knowing when to pivot. It's just like, oh, no one can help me with this thing? How do I help myself? And, oh, I liked photography and I love YouTube. It's probably the same thing. Let me just pick up a camera and learn how to video edit. You know? Like, it's just comes from a place of, I can figure it out. And I'm going to figure it out. And if I don't how to do that thing, I'm gonna teach myself how to do it because we have YouTube and I'll figure it out.Follow me, Renaissance Woman Sara Kobilka, on LinkedIn, where I put most of my social media energy and Facebook.If you're extra curious, check out Renaissance Woman Consulting to learn more about some of the many types of work I ...
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  • The Secret Lives of Multipassionates – with Marika Luneau, Multipassionate
    Jan 21 2026
    I'm back to having guests after two solo episodes! In this week's episode, multipassionate Renaissance Woman, Marika Luneau joined in the fun.Marika is a fellow solopreneur dedicated to supporting purpose-drive professionals. Like me, she hosts LinkedIn Sprints and is a community builder. Our conversation ranged across numerous topics including LinkedIn strategy (focused on authenticity and community building), the importance of finding our people, neurospicy tendencies amongst Renaissance People, finding the right balance when telling your story and so much more. Speaking of stories, Marika shared a number for her life that even many of her friends and frequent collaborators don't know! So sit back, grab a drink of your choice, and enjoy the show!Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):Sign up for updates on my podcast and what's happening in the Renaissance People Community and find our latest activities on my website.Jenni Gritters: Website, LinkedIn, InstagramResearch on ADHD (attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder) diagnosis differences between girls and boysResearch on the overlap between diagnosis of PMDD (premenstrual dysmorphic disorder) and ADHDSandy (Sandra) Bean: LinkedInJamie Cox: WebsiteAndrea Reeves: WebsiteAlex Alcon: WebsiteMaggie Blackburn: WebsiteJamie Hamre: LinkedInMichelle Obama says 'What do you want to be when you grow up?' is the worst question you can ask a kid Business Insider articlePatrick Meaney’s LinkedIn post about shaping your career like a brambleMarika’s websiteVideos of Marika performing basketball tricks as a child: spinning a basketball in a show at 1-year-old, doing tricks at 6, spinning 5 balls simultaneously, and dribbling 3 basketballs in a show at 7Follow Marika on Social Media:LinkedIn | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTubeA few things Marika and I discuss:1:52 Finding your people2:53 Jenni Gritters Lovefest6:28 Repressed women’s voices in STEM and business10:17 Perfectionism vs good enough13:35 Repelling people who aren’t right for you15:38 Fear of visibility while craving community17:04 LinkedIn strategy22:14 Secret Life of Marika pt 1 and 2 (end-of-life doula and wedding venue owner)23:53 Focused messaging using umbrella terms27:34 Uniting business and non-profit people28:29 Venn diagram lovefest30:38 Toxic bureaucratic slowdowns33:46 Neurospicy tendencies in Renaissance People (and how ChatGPT helped Marika realize she had ADHD)39:09 Resources for women and non-binary Renaissance People who are entrepreneurs42:17 Small talk struggles as Renaissance Women43:17 Embracing our many iterations48:04 Improv Game50:00 Rapidish Fire Questions, Secret Life of Marika pt 3 (basketball trick performer)Quotes from the episode:Honestly, I think in community with other Renaissance, multi-passionate people, one of the biggest things I've learned about having this personality type and this type of brain is we cannot take advice from people who don't have this type of brain. We cannot take advice from people who are like in the traditional mold, one path, niche down, value prop…all of those really strict guardrails that come with traditional business practices...not good advice for us. (Marika)(Marika interacting with Chat GPT) I was like, just randomly, do you think I have ADHD or even autism? Like could I be on the spectrum? Just so randomly said it. And it was like, “You might wanna sit down for this…” No joke. That was the line. (Marika)You've got a saucy ChatGPT there! (Sara)Yes. She reflects me. She reflects my voice. So she is very sassy and girly for sure. (Marika)I never wanna be like, 'No Marika, focus. Don't make an archetypes quiz right now. You have bigger fish to fry.' It's like, no, make the types quiz if it feeds your soul. Because your soul is what generates all of this work to begin with. As soon as we lose our buzz and our spark and our motivation, the whole thing kind of fizzles out. (Marika)It's so funny. Because I'm talking about all these things that I'm like, don't tell anyone you're doing this. But that's what I'm doing! I'll give an example. Like full transparency... (Marika)This is the space for it, though. (Sara)Exactly! (Marika)We're all Renaissance nerds here! (Sara)Sometimes I've misread the room and I think we're about to go so deep. I'm like, “Yeah, let's talk about…death! Let's talk about the experience of it. What was the most beautiful death you ever witnessed?” And everyone's like, “Uh... uh... What do you do for a living?” (Marika)“I just came here for the wine and free hors d'oeuvres...” (Sara)Yeah, I don't know. But again, I think with this type of brain we don't necessarily have an off switch. (Marika)Follow me on LinkedIn, where I put most of my social media energy and Facebook.If you're extra curious, check out Renaissance Woman Consulting to learn more about some of the many types of work I do.And should you care to support the production of this podcast, I'd love it if you'd buy me an oat milk ...
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  • The Challenge
    Jan 7 2026

    This is another unplanned mini episode thanks to illness. In it, I talk about illness, injury, and caregiving and the impact it has on Renaissance People.

    Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):

    1. Check out Jenni Gritter's CREATE program.
    2. Join as a guest on my show! If you're a Renaissance Person, complete this quick form and I’ll get back to you as I’m scheduling recording dates.
    3. Sign up to get updates about this podcast and the Renaissance People Community I'm building.

    Follow me on LinkedIn, where I put most of my social media energy and Facebook.

    If you're extra curious, check out Renaissance Woman Consulting to learn more about some of the many types of work I do.

    And should you care to support the production of this podcast, I'd love it if you'd buy me an oat milk cappuccino, the caffeinated beverage of my choice.

    This podcast is hosted and edited by Sara Kobilka.

    Theme music is by Brian Skellenger

    Podcast distribution support provided by K.O. Myers of Particular Media

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  • End-of-Year Reflections from the Renaissance Woman
    Dec 23 2025

    Promised Show Notes Materials (take a drink):

    1. Join as a guest on my show! If you're a Renaissance Person, complete this quick form and I’ll get back to you as I’m scheduling recording dates.
    2. Sign up to get updates about this podcast and the Renaissance People Community I'm building.
    3. Thank you to my amazing guests, Ep. 2 Nancy Scales Coddington and Ep. 3 Melissa Vining.
    4. SciGirls from Twin Cities Public Television
    5. Interesting interview with Kimberlé Crenshaw, the professor who coined the term "intersectionality".
    6. Learn more about two-spirit from an award-winning podcast episode of one of my favorite podcasts, Unreserved with Rosanna Deerchild.
    7. Have thoughts about question regarding other terms for Renaissance People? Email me at sara@renwomanconsulting.com.

    Follow me on LinkedIn, where I put most of my social media energy and Facebook.

    If you're extra curious, check out Renaissance Woman Consulting to learn more about some of the many types of work I do.

    And should you care to support the production of this podcast, I'd love it if you'd buy me an oat milk cappuccino, the caffeinated beverage of my choice.

    This podcast is hosted and edited by Sara Kobilka.

    Theme music is by Brian Skellenger

    Podcast distribution support provided by K.O. Myers of Particular Media

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    12 mins