As we race toward the end of 2025 and look ahead to 2026, many of us find ourselves taking stock — of our year, our ministry, and even our own sense of worth. How are you feeling right now? Encouraged? Tired? Discouraged? In this our episode for the year, Roy Moran brings a timely and deeply pastoral word that calls us back to what we are truly worth — not based on our activity, outcomes, or perceived success, but on what God has already declared and paid for. Roy encourages us to reflects on Romans 8:15–39. Dave will read the full passage at the end of the episode, creating space for you to reflect, pray, and give thanks as we approach Christmas.

We often don’t need more information — we need reminding. As Patrick Henry famously said, “People need to be reminded more than they need to be informed.”

Too often, our sense of worth is quietly shaped by our activity. We compare ourselves to others in the room — those with larger platforms, greater influence, or more visible disciple-making fruit — and we begin to measure ourselves accordingly. Roy names this for what it is: a deeply destructive way of living. The gospel proclaims something radically different. Every human being is worth the blood of Jesus. The most significant relationship in all eternity — the relationship between the Father and the Son — was put into question so that we could be brought into God’s family. That is the value the Father places on us.

Even if we experience extraordinary success in ministry or movement outcomes, our worth never increases. We are worth exactly what was paid on the cross — nothing more, nothing less.

Roy also challenges our learning and leadership cultures. If confession and repentance are absent — especially repentance from idols like ministry numbers, performance, or operating out of the flesh — we subtly drift back into a works-based mindset. Peace and freedom come when we remember that our worth is never on trial. It is not dependent on our effort, outcomes, or legacy.

Our identity is secure:
I am a child of the Most High.
I am precious to Him.
He will never leave me or forsake me.

Whether or not we ever see a disciple-making movement, God’s invitation remains the same: to live as beloved and faithful sons and daughters.

Romans 8:15–39 – questions for reflection

• What identity does Paul highlight in Romans 8?
  Spend some time in quiet contemplation before God.
  Is there anything the Spirit is inviting you to confess or repent of?

May this episode help you end the year grounded in grace, identity, and the unshakeable love of the Father.

In this episode, we continue our series drawing from our training with Roy Moran and Aila Tasse. In this conversation, Roy shares the importance of focusing on the generators in disciple-making movements and reflects on several key shifts in his thinking and practice. He begins by telling parts of his own story and how he became involved in movements around the world.

1. Conversion vs. Discovery & Disciple-Making
   Roy highlights the difference between aiming for a moment of conversion versus facilitating discovery through disciple-making. He notes that the “line of faith” concept has shaped much of Western thinking, yet it’s not something we actually see in the Gospels. Discovery Bible Studies—often led by those who aren’t yet followers of Jesus—play a crucial role here.
2. Faith in Function, Not Form
   Instead of focusing on structures or models, Roy urges us to trust the function of disciple-making. When we start with making disciples, ekklesia—church as Jesus intended—naturally emerges.
3. Groups Over Individuals
   Movements multiply through groups, not isolated individuals. Catalysts fuel multiplication, while what Roy calls “accidental diminishers” slow it down.
4. Marketers vs. Terrorists (Revolutionaries)
   Roy draws a striking analogy: marketers are loud and central, while revolutionaries are subtle, quiet, and operate at the edges, identifying people who are already open to change. They are also needs-focused. He warns that our well-intended spirituality can sometimes get in the way of our humanness—and that curiosity, especially in the West, has become a lost art.
5. Learning Designers vs. Content Providers
   Roy re-examines what we mean by the biblical gift of teaching. Is it merely telling? Research shows that questions, not statements, facilitate genuine learning. Movements thrive when we design ways for people to discover rather than receive information passively.
6. Leading People Toward vs. Leading Away
   Catalytic leaders create processes where “it can’t happen without me, but it can’t depend on me.” This becomes a litmus test for our methods:
   Can people do this themselves, and can they pass it on?

Roy emphasizes that one of our common mistakes is focusing on generations (how many steps down the line) instead of generators—the multipliers who spark ongoing reproduction. When we cultivate generators, the generations take care of themselves.

He illustrates this with the pandemic’s “R number,” which showed how quickly a virus could spread. Christianity, he suggests, can sometimes inoculate people from the very thing it’s meant to spread—we become addicted to visible success and move on when things don’t seem to be working.

But movements don’t emerge from quick wins.
They are formed through long periods of small, consistent acts of obedience, which eventually become visible. Roy calls us back to staying faithful to the basics of disciple-making—and to keeping our eyes on the generators.

After hearing from Roy Moran last week, in this podcast we start a series of receiving a training from Roy and Aila Tasse. Roy and Aila brought clarity and the heart of God the Father as we received their input in Melbourne recently over two weeks. In this episode, Roy shares on not falling in love with the practice of DMM but with the heart of God.

The Lovesick Father’s Heart

He asks us two questions to answer from Luke 15:20-24 (the returning of the prodigal son):

1. What does this tell us about the heart of this earthly father in the story?
2. What does this tell us about the heart of God?

“And he arose and came to his father. But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and felt compassion, and ran and embraced him and kissed him. And the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’ But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring quickly the best robe, and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet. And bring the fattened calf and kill it, and let us eat and celebrate. For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.’ And they began to celebrate.”

• Our core motivation for disciple making is this: We serve a lovesick Father who is desperate to regather his family.
• We need to fall in love with the problem not the solution: When we fall in love with disciple making tactics, we fail to realise that they are not what generates passion. Only a connection with the lovesick Father’s heart for his lost children will bring people passion and motivation.
• Becoming part of the Father’s business: Its not as simple as saying ‘prayer starts movements’. Instead, as we grow closer to the Father’s heart for his children, we will become part of the family business.
• God is generous: The reason the trinity created us is so that we could share in the life and community that they have. God is desperate to see those who have fallen out of this community to be pulled back into it.

Roy and his wife Candy, and a group of four others started Shoal Creek Community Church in 1992.