What does it really mean to love people well—especially when conversations get messy, awkward, or emotional?

In this episode of Courageous Love, Kristin DeVan and Mark Riding kick off the new year by rethinking resolutions, reflecting on growth, and diving into a powerful (and practical!) listening strategy that can transform friendships, families, classrooms, and communities.

You’ll learn how to recognize whether someone needs a tissue box, a soap box, or a tool box—and why jumping straight to “fixing” can actually do more harm than good. Gaby Y. shares her leadership journey from sixth grade representative to student council president and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it really means to lead in middle school. From planning fun events to making sure every student feels heard, Gaby reminds us that leadership is about inclusion, listening, and creating joy.Along the way, Kristin and Mark explore what courageous love looks like in everyday moments, from sitting with someone who’s alone to choosing truth over comfort.

In this holiday-themed episode of Courageous Love, Kristin DeVan and Mark Riding reflect on unexpected gifts and what truly makes the season meaningful. They share practical mindfulness tips to help listeners stay present, reduce stress, and focus on joy during a busy time of year.

The hosts also offer a simple and thoughtful holiday gift guide, emphasizing that meaningful gifts don’t have to be expensive — they just need to be personal. Fun segments like 12 Seconds of Courage and the Courage-O-Meter challenge listeners to practice courageous love in everyday holiday moments.

The episode features an inspiring conversation with Maryvale senior Harper Jackson, who shares her passion for service, leadership, and leaving a legacy of joy and positivity within the community. The episode closes with a reminder to choose presence, patience, and courageous love this holiday season.

In Episode 5 of the Courageous Love Podcast, Kristin and Mark kick things off with a lighthearted reflection on childhood sports… or the lack thereof! From imaginary windmill dunks to step-stool hurdle jumping, they explore the idea of athletic “alternate universes” before diving into the joy (and chaos) of Advent calendars.

Then the hosts take on this episode’s Big Why: What makes Catholicism distinct from other Christian faith traditions? Kristin breaks down sacraments, the Eucharist, the role of the Pope, and the partnership of faith and reason in an accessible, welcoming way.

Later, they welcome special guest Maggie Treon, Maryvale Class of 2010 and Assistant Athletic Director. Maggie shares what makes Maryvale Athletics unique, the heart behind their athletes, stories of true courageous love on the field, and the power of trying something new—even if you’ve never played the sport before. From championship games to supporting teammates through tough losses, she paints a vibrant picture of what it means to wear “Maryvale” on a jersey.