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Cross-Pollinated Leadership

Cross-Pollinated Leadership

Written by: Tony Dahlager
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Hey current and aspiring Data and AI leaders! We're curating unique perspectives to support your development and growth. Join us as we listen to the wisdom of experts outside of the data community to find creative solutions to the challenges that require more from us than just our technical skills. Discover how insights from a marketer, lawyer, PR agent, venture capitalist, coach, and others can unlock your full data and AI leadership potential.Cross-Pollinated Leadership Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • Brilliant Meetings (featuring Aaron Klein)
    Nov 24 2025
    Episode Notes

    Do you feel frustrated by the number of meetings you need to attend as a data leader? Are you sick of unproductive and repetitive meetings?

    Aaron Klein is on a mission to kill broken meetings. He joined the Cross-Pollinated Leadership podcast to share his wisdom on why meetings are necessary at all, the role of leadership in conducting brilliant meetings, and how he and the team at Contio are re-envisioning the role of AI in improving our human interactions at work.

    (Spoiler alert -- we need a lot more than just another notetaking bot.)

    Listen if you want to lead brilliant meetings and get your team moving consistently together in the same direction.

    Resources
    • Check out Contio (https://www.contio.ai/)
    • Read Aaron's Brilliant Meeting Manifesto (https://www.contio.ai/blog/brilliant-meeting-broken-meeting)
    • Read "Death by Meeting" by Patrick Lencioni (https://www.amazon.com/Death-Meeting-Leadership-Solving-Business/dp/0787968056)
    Connect with Aaron
    • Aaron Klein (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronklein/)
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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Project Dynamics (featuring Shane Anastasi)
    Sep 16 2025
    Episode Notes

    Shane Anastasi joins Cross-Pollinated Leadership to talk about the unique dynamics that exist in consulting project engagements and why traditional approaches can lead to failure. Join the discussion to get an inside scoop on how to navigate relationships with consultants when you need to procure professional services as a data leader.

    Unpack how you can use the wisdom Shane shares to identify a quality consultant earlier in a sales process, how you can manage consultant relationships towards successful project outcomes, and how to help your team proactively avoid burnout.

    Shane's business, PS Principles, delivers certification training programs to ensure that professional services delivery teams proactively lead customer projects. His books are incredibly helpful to current and aspiring consultants who want to be masters of the consulting craft.

    Resources
    • Professional Services Career Map (https://www.psprinciples.com/cpl)
    • Burnout Cycle (https://www.psprinciples.com/cpl)
    • Project Dynamics (https://www.amazon.com/Project-Dynamics-Successful-Customer-Management/dp/B0D1BW8RZM)
    Connect with Shane
    • Shane Anastasi (https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaneanastasi/)
    • PS Principles (https://www.psprinciples.com/)
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    1 hr and 42 mins
  • Culture and Engagement (featuring Sarah Odess)
    Aug 20 2025
    Episode Notes

    Sarah Odess from Catered Consulting joins Cross-Pollinated Leadership to talk about how you can focus your time and energy on things that will actually make a positive impact on your organization’s culture and employee engagement. + What are the quantitative benefits of investing time in improving culture and engagement? + What dynamics create a healthy environment for culture and engagement to thrive? + What things can be done to positively influence culture and engagement outside your team? + What can you do to improve culture and engagement when things aren't going well?

    After the interview, Tony and Lisa take time to unpack the unique dynamics of culture and engagement within a data team. You will greatly benefit from investing time in learning how you can be a better leader and positive influence for your team in these critical two areas.

    Sarah's business, Catered Consulting, offers specialized consulting services to Private Equity and medium-sized businesses, focusing on culture surveys to enhance work environments and executive people strategic planning.

    How to Connect with Sarah:
    • Sarah Odess (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-kirkendall-odess-2ba21354/)
    • sarah@cateredconsulting.co
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    1 hr and 13 mins
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