In this warm conversation, I sit down with Terry Virgo — a man whose life and ministry have shaped countless others, including me. At 85, Terry embodies something increasingly rare: a joyful, humble, grace-soaked faith that has only grown richer with time.

What struck me most in this interview is Terry’s utter simplicity and freedom. He speaks with a lightness of spirit that comes from decades of learning to rest in God’s kindness rather than his own effort. As he shares his story, you hear the journey from striving to surrender, from pressure to peace — a journey I know many of us long to make.

We explore grace not as a doctrine but as a lived reality — the kind that sets the captive free, rekindles joy, and releases us from the exhausting need to “get it right.” Terry reflects on identity, calling, leadership, ageing, and what it means to remain fruitful and full of courage in the later years of life. It is a conversation filled with wisdom, humour, and the kind of hope that looks beyond this world to something far greater.

If you’re hungry for a faith that is lighter, freer, and more deeply rooted in grace… if you’re navigating complexity and longing for clarity and joy… or if you simply want to learn from a man who has walked faithfully with Jesus for over six decades — I think you’ll find this conversation both grounding and uplifting.

My prayer is that it encourages you, as it encouraged me, to live the rest of your life in the light of eternity — with open hands, a confident heart, and a renewed sense that the best is still to come.

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I’m delighted to announce Series 4 of Dancing with Wisdom Podcast is here!

https://youtu.be/Lh761Tpmgog

This season is all about thriving in the second half of life and learning to live in the light of eternity.

To open the series, I sit down with my daughter Nisha for a warm, honest, and often light-hearted conversation reflecting on my recent milestone—turning 60.

Or put another way: rather than counting our days, how do we make our days count?

Our culture often paints aging as decline, but I believe it’s actually an invitation to grow deeper in wisdom, gratitude, and joy.

In our conversation, we touch on the four themes of wisdom from my book
—Being (who am I becoming?),
—Relating (how am I loving those around me?),
—Doing (what meaningful work is mine to do?), and
—Leaving (what legacy will I leave?).

We talk about why leadership is more about influence than titles, and why the hardest person to lead is yourself.

There’s also a moment when I recall being nicknamed “Puddleglum” by my children—a wake-up call to choose gratitude over cynicism.

We talk about how a sciatica scare taught me to care for my body as well as my mind, and how gratitude, practiced daily, shifts life from entitlement to gift.

Looking ahead, you’ll hear from inspiring leaders in later life who are reinventing themselves, deepening relationships, and showing us it’s never too late to grow. Whether you’re younger and want to learn from those who’ve gone ahead, or you’re in your own second half of life seeking encouragement, this series is for you.

Above all, this milestone has reminded me of the eternal perspective: if death isn’t the end, then what matters most is character, love, and faithfulness. In Christ, bad things can turn for good, good things can never be lost, and the best is yet to come.

The video can be accessed above and I also attach the audio podcast below