Episodes

  • Make it Make SENDs #6: From SEND Crisis to System Reform: Lorraine Petersen OBE on What Must Change
    Apr 7 2026

    Keywords

    education, SEND, inclusion, teacher burnout, mental health, school leadership, education reform, SEND crisis, education crisis, teacher wellbeing, child mental health, safeguarding, policy, school improvement, inclusive practice

    Summary

    In this episode of Make it Make SENDs, I sit down with Lorraine Petersen OBE — former CEO of nasen, headteacher, and one of the most respected voices in SEND and inclusive education.

    We explore the current state of education and ask the big question: are we facing a SEND crisis… or an education system that isn’t built to support everyone?

    Lorraine shares her journey through education, offering deep insight into the pressures schools are facing today — from rising SEND demand and stretched resources to teacher burnout and the growing mental health needs of both staff and students.

    This conversation goes beyond the headlines, unpacking what’s really happening in schools right now, and more importantly, what needs to change. Lorraine speaks with clarity and honesty about how we can build a system that is more inclusive, humane, and sustainable — for both young people and the adults supporting them.

    If you’re a teacher, leader, SENDCO or parent trying to navigate the complexity of modern education, this episode will leave you thinking differently about what’s possible.

    Key Takeaways

    • “We don’t just have a SEND crisis — we have a system that isn’t designed for everyone.”
    • “You cannot separate inclusion from the wellbeing of teachers.”
    • “If we want better outcomes for children, we must first support the adults in the system.”

    Support the Show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.

    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com

    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 23 mins
  • Detention Diaries #6 Alun Ebeneezer - Creating a Culture of Discipline in Schools
    Mar 13 2026

    Keywords

    education, leadership, school culture, discipline, inclusion, Welsh education, head teacher, student engagement, academic rigor, mentorship

    Summary

    In this conversation, Alun Ebenezer shares his journey in education, discussing the importance of creating a positive school culture, maintaining high standards, and the challenges faced in the Welsh education system. He emphasizes the need for discipline, mentorship, and community engagement while addressing the balance between inclusion and academic rigor. Alun also reflects on his aspirations for systemic change in education and the importance of resilience in students.

    "Discipline and high standards are crucial."
    "Attendance is a collective responsibility."
    "Inclusivity must be balanced with discipline."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Early Life
    03:13 Teaching Journey and Leadership Development
    05:57 The Importance of School Culture
    09:12 Establishing Fulham Boys School
    12:03 Addressing Societal Issues and Role Models
    14:54 Discipline and Standards in Education
    17:58 Challenges in the Welsh Education System
    21:06 Strategies for Improvement in Education
    25:24 Transforming School Culture
    27:27 Improving Attendance Strategies
    30:27 Inclusivity and Exclusion in Education
    32:53 Meaningful Inclusion and Equity
    34:55 Addressing Repeat Offenders
    36:56 Challenging Labels in Education
    38:50 Future Aspirations in Education
    40:53 The Need for Systemic Change
    42:34 Lessons in Leadership
    44:48 Advice for Head Teachers

    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    55 mins
  • Make it Make SENDs #5 : Music and Inclusivity - is it even possible? with Kate Campbell-Green
    Feb 27 2026

    Music, Inclusion, and Empowerment with Kate Campbell Green

    Join us in this insightful episode as Kate Campbell Green shares her journey through music education, inclusion, and advocacy. We explore how music can be a powerful tool for social change, personal growth, and transforming educational spaces. Discover practical strategies to make music truly inclusive and inspiring at all levels.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Welcome and introduction to Kate Campbell Green's journey
    02:23 - Setting the tone: Covid, new year, and purpose of the Make It Make Sense podcast
    03:03 - Why understanding my autistic daughter enhances my work in education
    04:00 - The broad role of music services in schools and misconceptions
    05:38 - How music education addresses disengagement and fosters belonging
    06:36 - The significance of authentic venues like Stoller Hall and Band on the Wall
    09:02 - Early musical influences and pathways from DJing to education
    10:33 - Growing up autistic and ADHD: challenges and the role of music as sanctuary
    13:13 - The power of creative process and improvisation in music learning
    16:04 - Deep dive into inclusive music education: frameworks and mental models
    18:19 - The four Rs of inclusion: rapport, resilience, representation, reflection
    22:21 - The culture of music departments as safe spaces
    23:02 - Is education truly inclusive? Challenges and personal reflections
    25:26 - Insights from Dr. Shelley Moore on inclusive practices worldwide
    28:41 - The pitfalls of segregation versus genuine inclusion
    31:23 - The physiological and neurological impact of music on neurodiverse learners
    33:45 - How improvisation and creative frameworks foster belonging
    36:43 - Building trust and relationships in disengaged learners
    38:07 - The emotional weight and reward of nurturing young people through music
    43:21 - The impact of engagement in real-world performance venues
    48:39 - How Tameside Music Service creates opportunities for all young people
    55:18 - The significance of spaces like Stoller Hall for young performers
    62:37 - The role of PGCEI and professional development in advancing inclusive practice
    66:35 - Practical tips for teachers: mindset, respect, and embracing complexity
    68:37 - The leaky pipeline: strategies to support long-term musical journeys
    75:44 - Envisioning the future: joined-up pathways and careers in music
    76:54 - The need for holistic, continuous music learning from cradle to career
    79:55 - Why creativity and improvisation are skills machines can't replicate
    80:48 - Reflection: the people behind music education give us hope
    81:16 - If policy makers listened: Just give us the money & trust educators
    82:23 - Balancing life and work: personal anecdotes from Kate
    86:31 - What's next: new projects, stewardship, and supporting local music ecosystems

    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 32 mins
  • Detention Diaries #5 - Redefining Masculinity: What does it really mean to be a man?
    Feb 12 2026

    Keywords

    progressive masculinity, mental health, emotional literacy, young men, education, intersectionality, digital culture, positive masculinity, misogyny, teacher training


    Summary

    In this conversation, Mike Nicholson discusses his journey from being a teacher to founding Progressive Masculinity, a program aimed at creating safe spaces for boys and men to explore their identities. He emphasises the importance of breaking down barriers, understanding intersectionality, and addressing mental health issues among young men. The discussion also touches on the impact of digital culture, the challenges of misogyny, and the role of educators in promoting positive masculinity. Mike shares insights on empowering young men and the need for systemic changes in education to support their development.


    Subscribe to Detention Diaries on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an episode Leave a review – it massively helps the podcast reach more educators Join the Detention Diaries community for blogs, videos, podcasts and teacher banter: www.detentiondiaries.com

    Where real teachers, real stories, and real conversations happen.

    Takeaways

    Boys and men often want to talk but lack safe spaces.
    Intersectionality is crucial in understanding masculinity.
    Digital culture significantly impacts young men's identities.
    Mental health discussions should be age-appropriate and accessible.
    Challenging misogyny requires a nuanced approach.
    Educators must listen to boys' concerns without judgment.
    Self-reflection is essential for educators working with boys.
    Boys need to feel cared for to engage meaningfully.
    Creating spaces for boys can lead to positive outcomes.
    Empowering young men involves providing them with tools to express themselves.



    sound bites

    "What does it mean to be a man?"
    "We need to promote aspirational masculinity."
    "Self-reflection is an uncomfortable exercise."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Progressive Masculinity
    02:57 The Journey of a Teacher to Facilitator
    05:56 Breaking Down Barriers: Engaging Young Men
    09:01 Understanding Intersectionality in Masculinity
    12:03 The Impact of Digital Culture on Young Men
    14:56 Addressing Mental Health and Emotional Literacy
    17:54 Challenging Misogyny and Toxic Masculinity
    21:00 The Role of Educators in Promoting Positive Masculinity
    23:56 Future of Masculinity Programs
    26:53 Empowering Educators and Young Men
    30:02 Conclusion and Future Vision

    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    58 mins
  • Detention Diaries #4 What Teachers Really Need: Ross McGill on Workload, Wellbeing & the Future of Schools
    Feb 5 2026

    In this episode of Detention Diaries, Dan sits down with Ross McGill, the founder of Teacher Toolkit — one of the UK’s most influential platforms supporting teachers with practical strategies, wellbeing insights, and real classroom solutions.

    Ross shares his journey from classroom teacher to education thought-leader, the challenges facing schools today, and his honest views on workload, burnout, policy, and what truly needs to change in education. It’s a candid, inspiring, and refreshingly real conversation about teaching in modern Britain.

    Find Ross & Teacher Toolkit:

    Website & resources: https://www.teachertoolkit.co.uk X (Twitter): https://x.com/TeacherToolkit Training & CPD: https://www.teachertoolkit.co.uk/training

    Enjoyed the episode?

    Subscribe to Detention Diaries on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an episode Leave a review – it massively helps the podcast reach more educators Join the Detention Diaries community for blogs, videos, podcasts and teacher banter: www.detentiondiaries.com

    Where real teachers, real stories, and real conversations happen.

    Takeaways

    Teaching is a challenging yet rewarding profession.
    Mental health and well-being are crucial for teachers.
    The education system is evolving, but challenges remain.
    Ofsted plays a significant role in accountability but needs reform.
    Teachers possess valuable skills that can be applied outside the classroom.
    Retention of teachers is a pressing issue in education.
    Supportive school cultures can enhance staff well-being.
    Data collection in schools should focus on meaningful insights.
    Teachers should be encouraged to share their experiences and challenges.
    The landscape of education is constantly changing, requiring adaptability.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Context of Education Challenges
    08:35 The Evolution of Teach Toolkit
    20:39 Personal Experiences and Their Impact on Education
    32:41 Future Directions and Reflections on Influence
    35:20 Government Engagement with Social Media Influencers
    37:59 Teacher Workload and Retention Crisis
    42:44 Rethinking Assessment and Feedback in Education
    46:55 The Role of Ofsted in Education
    59:29 Supporting Teacher Well-Being and Mental Health
    01:06:02 The Future of Teaching and Career Longevity



    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 23 mins
  • Make it Make SENDS #4 - Aiming for the Edges with Dr Shelley Moore. How inclusion REALLY works!
    Nov 28 2025

    In this conversation, Dan speaks with Dr. Shelley Moore about her journey in education, focusing on the importance of inclusive practices for students with disabilities. They discuss the challenges faced by the education system, the need for a shift from special education to inclusive education, and the significance of community and collaboration in fostering an inclusive environment. Dr. Moore shares her research findings and practical strategies for teachers to create inclusive classrooms, emphasizing the importance of understanding student needs and building agency. The conversation highlights the necessity of evolving Individual Education Plans (IEPs) to better support students and the overall educational community.


    Takeaways

    Inclusion is beneficial for all students, not just those with disabilities.
    Education systems need to evolve to meet the needs of today's diverse learners.
    Community and belonging are essential for student success.
    Teachers should start with the needs of the most vulnerable students.
    IEPs should focus on growth rather than fixing perceived deficits.
    Positive attitudes towards inclusion can transform educational practices.
    Flexibility in teaching methods is crucial for accommodating diverse learners.
    Research should guide educational decisions, not just tradition or opinion.
    Student agency is vital for meaningful learning experiences.
    Collaboration among educators, families, and communities enhances inclusion efforts.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Context of the Conversation
    02:29 Dr. Shelley's Journey in Education
    06:54 The Shift from Special Education to Inclusive Education
    12:06 Understanding the Education Crisis
    15:59 Research and Practical Applications in Inclusive Education
    23:59 Five Key Principles for Effective Inclusion
    30:41 Barriers in Education: The Role of Standardized Testing
    33:12 Permissible Prejudice: Understanding Discrimination in Education
    34:30 Rethinking Accessibility: The Bowling Metaphor in Education
    39:47 Creating Inclusive Learning Environments: A Case Study
    42:37 Empowering Student Agency: Making Choices in Learning
    48:43 Navigating Standardized Testing: Strategies for Success
    55:01 The Evolution of IEPs: From Medical Models to Inclusive Practices
    59:32 Practical Tips for Inclusive Teaching: Small Steps for Big Change


    💬 Join the Detention Diaries community
    If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to follow, like and subscribe wherever you listen — and share it with someone who cares about SEND and inclusion.
    For more stories, interviews and a healthy dose of British classroom humour, head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    and sign up for updates.
    Follow us on socials:
    • 📸 Instagram – @detentiondiaries

    • ▶️ YouTube – Detention Diaries

    • 🐦 X (formerly Twitter) – @DetentionDiaries



    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Make it Make SENDs #3 - Talking About Talking: Jane Harris on Fixing the Speech and Language Crisis
    Nov 14 2025
    This week on Make it Make SENDs, I sit down with Jane Harris, Chief Executive of Speech and Language UK and Vice-Chair of the Disabled Children’s Partnership — two organisations at the frontline of making sure every child’s voice is heard (literally and figuratively).
    Jane shares what’s really going on behind the statistics:
    • Why so many children are struggling with speech, language and communication right now
    • How early identification can change everything
    • What needs to happen in policy, funding and teacher training to fix the system
    • And how we can all be part of the solution — from the classroom to the kitchen table
    It’s a hopeful, grounded conversation about the power of communication, the importance of empathy, and the small steps that can make a huge difference for children and families.
    🎧 Listen now and join the conversation.
    🔗 Find Jane Harris
    👉 Speech and Language UK

    👉 Disabled Children’s Partnership

    💬 Join the Detention Diaries community
    If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to follow, like and subscribe wherever you listen — and share it with someone who cares about SEND and inclusion.
    For more stories, interviews and a healthy dose of British classroom humour, head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    and sign up for updates.
    Follow us on socials:
    • 📸 Instagram – @detentiondiaries

    • ▶️ YouTube – Detention Diaries

    • 🐦 X (formerly Twitter) – @DetentionDiaries


    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Make it Make SENDs #2 - Follow the Empathy Road: Educating for Inclusion with Ginny Bootman
    Nov 8 2025

    Join me on this week’s episode of the Make it Make SENDs podcast as I chat with the remarkable Ginny Bootman — a SENDCO, former headteacher, author and champion of empathy-driven SEND education.


    🚀 In this conversation we dive into:


    • Ginny’s journey from classroom to leading inclusive practice
    • How empathy, trust and relationships make all the difference in SEND provision
    • The current state of SEND legislation, what’s working and what still needs to change
    • Practical advice for teachers, parents (like me, father of an autistic daughter) and anyone working with young people
    • Ginny’s favourite strategies, time-saving hacks and what she’d change overnight if she could


    📚 Check out Ginny’s work:


    • Book: Independent Thinking on Being a SENDCO by Ginny Bootman (113 tips for building relationships, saving time and changing lives) – crownhouse.co.uk+1
    • Ginny’s Talks & Podcast appearances – find them at her website and listen to her podcast “Follow the Empathy Road” Ginny Bootman | Follow the Empathy Road.+1
    • https://thesendcast.com/category/episodes/ginny-bootman/


    🌐 Join the Detention Diaries community:

    • Visit: www.detentiondiaries.com (subscribe for our weekly newsletter, resources, and more)
    • Instagram: @_detention_diaries
    • YouTube: @Detention_Diariess
    • X (formerly Twitter): @DetentionDiary


    🎧 We also recommend checking out previous podcast episodes if you’re new to the show — https://open.spotify.com/show/1hbydmiXAUaX8ktaoCphaF?si=9afcba5dfe354554 . If you enjoyed this episode, please like, subscribe and share so we can keep growing this conversation and supporting all those working in and around SEND.

    Thank you for listening, and a huge thank you to Ginny Bootman for bringing her energy, insight and passion.
    Hit play, sit back, and let’s get into it.


    Support the show

    Enjoyed the episode? Then it’s time to join the class.
    👉 Head to www.detentiondiaries.com
    to read the blog, sign up for the newsletter, and join our online staffroom community.

    Because education doesn’t end at the classroom door — and neither does the conversation.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 10 mins