• #28: Inside an IFS Ketamine Retreat with Ted Riskin and Amy Borsky Duffer, A Psychiatrist’s Audio Diary.
    May 23 2026

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    This episode is a companion audio diary to my interview with Ted Riskin, recorded while participating in one of his five-day Internal Family Systems (IFS) ketamine-assisted group retreats in Asheville, North Carolina. Over the course of the retreat, I recorded stream-of-consciousness reflections into my iPhone each day as I moved through group process, ketamine journeys, hikes in the mountains, and conversations about healing, anger, meaning, and inner balance.

    This episode is more personal and less structured than my usual interviews. Part field journal, part psychological exploration, it captures what it feels like to enter one of these increasingly popular healing environments.

    Timestamps

    0:00 - Audio Diary Retreat Setup
    1:55 - Meeting The Group And The Method
    4:19 - Setting Intentions For Inner Balance
    5:16 - First Ketamine Journey And Comeback
    10:32 - Integration Plus Hikes And Workday
    13:14 - Anger Work And Nature Reset
    15:14 - Lower Dose Insights And Next Steps

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  • #27: Ted Riskin - Befriending Anger, Moving the Cat, and the Healing Power of IFS Group Ketamine Retreats.
    May 17 2026

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    In this episode, I sit down with Ted Riskin — social worker, IFS expert, and pioneer of group ketamine retreats — after spending a week at his beautiful home in Asheville, North Carolina participating in one of his experiences. From his unusual path as a computer programmer living in an Ashram to becoming one of the leading voices in ketamine-assisted IFS group therapy, we explore how to work with protectors, why anger deserves more respect than our culture gives it, and how group healing unlocks something individual therapy often can't reach. Plus: why meaning isn't something you find — it's something you create.

    In this episode

    • What exiles and protectors are and how they shape our inner world
    • Why healing means becoming whole — and how IFS gets you there
    • From computer programming to debugging the psyche
    • How breathwork and non-ordinary states bypass the thinking brain
    • Anger as a healthy boundary-setting force — and why suppressing it breeds judgment
    • The three ways to work with a protector: push, invite, or pick up the cat
    • Why ketamine works like holotropic breathwork — and why Ted combined it with groups
    • How group healing reaches wounds that one-on-one therapy often misses
    • Outcomes data: what actually changes after a group ketamine IFS retreat
    • Meaning as something you generate — not something you find

    Timestamps

    3:42 - Meeting Ted And His Setting
    5:35 - Self Energy And Finding Balance
    8:20 - Exiles Protectors And Healing Wholeness
    14:00 - From Programmer To Therapist
    19:35 - Breathwork And Non Ordinary States
    27:43 - Core Energetics And Working With Anger
    36:18 - Discovering IFS Through Hypnosis
    42:26 - Ketamine As A Path Past Protectors
    47:15 - Building The Group Ketamine Model
    52:31 - Outcomes Data And What Changes Last
    53:49 - Meaning Connection And Modern Life
    57:00 - Creating Meaning From A Blank Slate
    59:52 - Rapid Fire Questions And Art
    1:03:58 - A Depolarizing Message And Where To Find Ted
    1:07:06 - What Comes Next On The Podcast

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  • #26: How Breath Can Heal Trauma and Restore Meaning - Dr. Patricia Gerbarg
    Mar 11 2026

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    Note: This conversation with Dr. Patricia Gerbarg was recorded in August 2025.

    In this episode, we explore how breathing patterns reshape the emotional brain, restore a sense of safety, and allow meaning to return to daily life with Dr. Patricia Gerbarg, co-creator of the Breath-Body-Mind program.

    From her personal development as a healer to co-creating a global healing community active in trauma hotspots like Ukraine and Rwanda, we explore the science, stories, and practical tools that help people regulate their nervous systems and reconnect with meaning.

    In this episode

    • Meaning as state-dependent and grounded in safety
    • What Breath Body Mind is and why safety comes first
    • How vagus nerve signaling links breathing to emotion
    • Why talk therapy alone often cannot reach stored trauma
    • The sequence: focus → movement → muscle softening → coherent breathing
    • Evidence from 9/11 survivors, veterans, schools, and IBD patients
    • Programs in Ukraine supporting clinicians, children, and communities
    • Rwanda’s community model blending breath, ritual, and narrative
    • Restoring connection, agency, and love through breath practices
    • How to start with short, safe practices and build consistency

    Timestamps

    0:14 – Opening Teaser: Breath and Meaning
    1:42 – Host’s Mission and Series Kickoff
    2:39 – Introducing Dr. Patricia Gerbarg
    3:48 – Why Breath Body Mind Exists
    7:31 – Global Growth and Going Online
    12:18 – Scope, Impact, and Ukraine Programs
    16:24 – From Psychoanalysis to Mass Healing
    20:31 – A Child’s Panic to Schoolwide Resilience
    24:20 – Gerbarg’s Public Speaking Breakthrough
    28:18 – Early Life and Path to Psychiatry
    36:58 – Discovering Breath After Illness
    41:04 – How Breathing Shapes Emotion
    47:14 – Publishing the Vagal Theory
    52:59 – Using Breath Clinically for Trauma
    59:22 – Building a Safe, Effective Sequence
    1:03:24 – Focus, Agency, and the Ha Breath
    1:06:07 – Coherent Breathing as the Foundation
    1:11:47 – Evidence From 9/11 to Schools
    1:16:47 – Inflammatory Bowel Disease Trial
    1:22:00 – Why Breakthroughs Lack Headlines
    1:27:04 – Real-World Results in Irish Schools
    1:30:48 – Rwanda’s Community Healing Model
    1:37:18 – Perpetrators, Forgiveness, Reintegration
    1:42:49 – Meaning as Connectedness
    1:47:44 – Rapid-Fire: Love, Art, and Advice

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  • #25: A Past Year Review Has Consequences (I Quit My Job and Started a Clinic - Yikes!)
    Jan 25 2026

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    In this New Year’s episode, I explore the very real consequences of last year’s Past Year Review. Most notably, I decided to retire from a beloved community mental health clinic and launch Park West Integrative Psychiatry — sparked by a desire for creativity, continued learning, and a growing belief in integrative trauma-informed approaches such as EMDR, Internal Family Systems, ketamine-assisted therapy, hypnosis, and breath-based practices.

    This episode reflects on how intentionally examining meaning and purpose can lead to significant life changes — changes that invite both opportunity and risk, excitement and fear.

    To close the episode, I share a recording of my retirement speech from the clinic, which turns into an unexpected sing-along and a fitting ritual for marking the end of one chapter and the beginning of another.

    Chapters

    0:13 — Nerves and a Big Career Pivot
    0:52 — Last Year’s Review and 2025 Intentions
    1:46 — Leaving a Beloved Community Clinic
    2:46 — Why Change Now, and What’s Next
    3:09 — New Directions in Trauma Treatment and Psychiatry
    4:05 — Building Park West Integrative Psychiatry
    5:02 — Fear, Complexity, and Finding Balance
    6:00 — A Cautious Note on Year-End Reviews
    6:20 — Reflections on Podcast Growth
    7:06 — Upcoming Group Therapies and Retreats
    7:54 — Yellowstone Lessons and Old Friends
    8:40 — Gratitude, Global Listeners, and What’s Next
    9:11 — Retirement Speech and Sing-Along

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  • #24: Past Year Review (PYR) and Setting Intentions for Beginner's Mind, Questioning Assumptions, and Consilience in 2025. (REPOST)
    Dec 31 2025

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    Happy New Year! It's time to do a meaning inventory in order to set intentions for 2026. Toward that end I am re-posting my meaning inventory from last year. Our next episode will delve into how these unfolded and are leading to major career changes.

    This episode invites listeners to engage in a meaningful past year review, turning away from traditional resolutions toward a more insightful approach to personal growth. By exploring the themes of beginner's mind, questioning assumptions, and the importance of consilience, Dr. Dirk Winter provides a framework for navigating mental health and self-discovery

    We cover:.

    • Dissecting the concept of a past year review
    • Sharing personal peaks and lows from 2024
    • Introducing guiding themes for 2025: beginner's mind, questioning assumptions, and consilience
    • Exploring the significance of various healing modalities
    • Challenging traditional mental health assumptions
    • Encouraging listeners to conduct their own past year review and set meaningful intentions

    Go ahead, do your past year review, get yourself maybe into some beginner's mind question patterns, look for areas of consilience, or come up with your own ideas or mantras for the coming year.

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  • #23: Master Hypnotist Mike Mandel (50 Years) on Ego States, Parts Work, and the Architecture of Mind.
    Nov 22 2025

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    Mike Mandel is a world-leading hypnotist with over 50 years of professional experience. He's performed nearly 5,000 stage shows, trained over 10,000 students at his Toronto hypnosis academy, and co-hosts the Brain Software podcast.

    Our conversation bridges hypnosis, Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, pain management, and meaning-making—showing how different healing traditions can discover the same truths about how minds heal.

    Whether you're a therapist curious about hypnosis, an IFS practitioner, or simply fascinated by how minds work and heal, this conversation will expand your understanding.

    You'll hear:

    • The "bungalow model" of ego states and stunning parallels with IFS therapy
    • How hypnosis stopped a severe burn from forming (tiny firemen with liquid nitrogen!)
    • The history of hypnosis from ancient Egypt to Milton Erickson
    • Why you need at least three models of reality (not just one)
    • How Mike reframed chronic pain from suffering into a reminder he's alive
    • Kitchen surgery stories that will blow your mind
    • Rapid-fire questions about meaning, legacy, and what matters most

    ⚠️ WARNING: Mike starts with a brief hypnotic demonstration. Pay attention—the more you focus, the more you'll experience it. We unpack how he did it at the end.

    "Everything is an ego state issue without exception." — Mike Mandel

    Key Timestamps

    • 05:50 - The Forgetting Demonstration
    • 07:28 - Ego States & The Bungalow Model
    • 15:23 - IFS & Hypnosis: Stunning Parallels
    • 21:50 - The Frozen Baby: A Profound Healing Story
    • 35:25 - Pain vs. Suffering
    • 40:52 - The Burn Treatment Story
    • 45:55 - What IS Trance?
    • 56:26 - History of Hypnosis: Mesmer to Erickson
    • 1:07:44 - How the Forgetting Demo Worked
    • 1:18:18 - Rapid-Fire Meaning Questions

    Resources

    • MikeMandelHypnosis.com
    • Brain Software Podcast

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    1 hr and 34 mins
  • #22: Healing Beyond Words - Joanne Twombly on 30 + Years of Treating Complex Trauma With Hypnosis, EMDR, IFS, and Deep Brain Reorienting.
    Sep 26 2025

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    Joanne Twombly, LCSW and author of Trauma Informed Internal Family Systems, has been treating complex trauma and dissociative disorders for over 30 years. In this conversation, she explores how right-brain modalities such as EMDR, hypnosis, and Internal Family Systems (IFS) can sometimes heal what words cannot. We also discuss the evolution of dissociative disorder diagnoses, the book Sybil and false memory controversies, the limits of traditional talk therapy, and the deeper role of meaning in recovery.

    Timestamps
    0:00 Welcome to Trauma-Informed Healing
    2:57 Understanding IFS and Parts Work
    8:40 From MPD to Hypnosis: Joanne's Journey
    15:19 Why Traditional Therapy Falls Short
    21:07 Dissociative Disorders Explained
    29:05 Deep Brain Reorienting and Body-Based Approaches
    36:39 Working with Transference and Meaning
    48:29 Final Wisdom: Purpose in Healing Work
    1:15:54 Episode Closing and Next Month Preview

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • #21: Former Marine Beau Laviolette Combines EMDR, IFS and Nature Retreats to Heal Veterans and Create Meaning.
    Jul 27 2025

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    What happens when you combine military experience, personal recovery, cutting-edge trauma therapies, and the healing power of nature? Beau Laviolette's remarkable journey answers this question through a story of transformation and purpose.

    From the sugar cane fields of Louisiana to the Marine Corps and back again, Beau's path wasn't straightforward. After military service ended unexpectedly due to seizures, he faced addiction struggles that eventually led him to recovery and a calling to help others. This deeply personal experience became the foundation for his approach to trauma healing, combining Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) with Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy using the Syzyge method.

    Beau takes us through his discovery of these powerful modalities and how they complement each other, particularly when working with complex trauma. While EMDR helps process traumatic memories, IFS provides the framework to understand the protective parts of ourselves that develop in response to trauma. This combination creates a comprehensive approach that addresses both neurobiological and psychological aspects of trauma recovery.

    The conversation ventures into fascinating territory as Beau describes his veteran-focused nature retreats. These immersive experiences take healing beyond the constraints of office therapy, allowing veterans to "unplug, connect, and let go" in natural settings. He explains how nature inherently contains qualities that facilitate access to what IFS calls "self-energy" – our core self characterized by compassion, curiosity, and calm.

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    1 hr and 18 mins