How can we relearn what we view as nature and as agriculture?

Our guest in this episode is Malika Cieremans, whois a dutch pioneer in the field of food forests. She has started more than 25 years ago, before 'food forest' was even a word in the dutch language. She has her own piece of land in the forest close to Bennekom and she works with education, design, knowledge and development of food forests in the Netherlands since 10 years.

In this episode we talk about our relationship to forests whilst placing them in an international context, the importance and variety of food forests and the arbitrary line between nature and agriculture that has become so powerful in legislation.

Host of this podcast: Matti. Let’s dive in!

Website Circle Ecology from Malika:

https://circleecology.org/

Link to Boerengroep:

https://www.boerengroep.nl/nl

Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper

Boerengroep IG: @instaboerengroep

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In this episode, we talk with Marita Canedo and Will Lambek from the NGO Migrant Justice. This organisation, based in the US, organizes for economic justice and human rights with immigrant farmworkers in the region's dairy industry. Currently, Migrant Justice runs a campaign focused on improving conditions for dairy workers who supply U.S. supermarkets owned by the Dutch company Ahold Delhaize.

Recently, Marita and Will were in the Netherlands to attend the shareholders meeting of Ahold Delhaize and we recorded a podcast with them!

Boerengroep:

• https://www.boerengroep.nl/

• FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen

• IG: instaboerengroep

• https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep

• email: st.boerengroep@wur.nl

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[THIS EPISODE IS IN DUTCH] In deze aflevering gaan we in gesprek met boerin Merel Gerritse van Boerderij Eetmeerbosch over het vrouw-zijn in de landbouwsector. Ze runt, samen met nieuwe collega-boerin Marenthe en een team stagiaires, vrijwilligers en vrienden Boerderij Eetmeerbosch bij Nijmegen. We spreken Merel over het zijn van een vrouwelijke ondernemer in een voornamelijk mannelijke landbouwsector, welke normen en waarden daar gelden en hoe je zelf opzoek kan gaan naar vrouwelijke rolmodellen.

De host van deze podcast is Lotte.

Website Boerderij Eetmeerbosch:

https://eetmeerbosch.nl

Boerengroep:

• https://www.boerengroep.nl/

• FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen

• IG: instaboerengroep

• https://nl.linkedin.com/company/boerengroep

• email: st.boerengroep@wur.nl

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This episode is hte second part of our conversation with Margreet van der Burg about the history of women in dutch agriculture throughout the 20th century. Margreet is a historian who is specialized in gender studies related to agriculture, and she works as a teacher and researcher at the Wageningen university.

In this episode we continue talking about the segregated agricultural education system, the low percentage of female-owned farms in the Netherlands and the present context of rural women.

Disclaimer: we will be talking in quite a binary way, when discussing the differences between activities, norms and rights for men and women in the agricultural sector. As a non-binary person myself, I would like to add a few words here to acknowledge the fluidity of gender and the realities in the past and the present of genderqueer people on the farmland. If you are interested in this topic, take a look at this zine (and do browse the web yourself):

https://viacampesina.org/en/2021//06/ecvc-launches-publication-on-gender-diversity-in-rural-areas/

This episode is hosted by Matti.

Links Margreet van der Burg:

- https://research.wur.nl/en/publications/in-de-voetsporen-van-de-kritische-boerin-25-jaar-landelijke-boeri

- https://scholar.google.com/citations?sortby=pubdate&hl=en&user=TC3q9dEAAAAJ&view_op=list_works

Podcast Annejet Brandsma:

- https://vrouwenvanhetland.annejetbrandsma.nl/grondwerk/

Links Boerengroep:

- https://boerengroep.nl/

-https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl

- https://https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL

Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper

Any questions or comments? Feel free to send an email to podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com

- International Women's Day Episode -

This episode is the first part of our conversation with Margreet van der Burg about the history of women in dutch agriculture throughout the 20th century. Margreet is a historian who is specialized in gender studies related to agriculture, and she works as a teacher and researcher at the Wageningen university.

In this episode we dive into the segregated agricultural education system, the lack of, or the difficulty to find, female stories and perspectives in agricultural history and the feminist movement in the 20th century.

Disclaimer: we will be talking in quite a binary way, when discussing the differences between activities, norms and rights for men and women in the agricultural sector. As a non-binary person myself, I would like to add a few words here to acknowledge the fluidity of gender and the realities in the past and the present of genderqueer people on the farmland. If you are interested in this topic, take a look at this zine (and do browse the web yourself!):

https://viacampesina.org/en/2021/06/ecvc-launches-publication-on-gender-diversity-in-rural-areas/

This episode is hosted by Matti.

Links Margreet van der Burg:

- https://www.wur.nl/en/persons/margreet-van-der-burg.htm?subpage=publications&_gl=1*1lmdve*_up*MQ..*_ga*NTY4NDI1MDM2LjE3NDE0NjUwNTA.*_ga_SZ1PQDSPJD*MTc0MTQ2NTA1MC4xLjEuMTc0MTQ2NTA1NC4wLjAuMA..

- https://scholar.google.com/citations?sortby=pubdate&hl=en&user=TC3q9dEAAAAJ&view_op=list_works

Links Boerengroep:

- https://boerengroep.nl/

- https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl

- https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL

Our IG: @podcast_digging_deeper

Any questions or comments? Feel free to send an email to

podcast_diggingdeeper@outlook.com

This summer, Jes, usually our editor, found himself at a special place in the midst of the old cork oak forests of Sintra in Portugal. In these forests, a permaculture design school resides. The school is called Terra Alta and was founded by Pedro Valdjiu. Jes got the chance to interview him, talking about his journey towards permaculture, his musical career, the role of art in permaculture and the importance of having a community supporting you.

In the second part, Jes speaks with Jenny Ready. She is the co-host & teacher of Terra Alta and an artist, soon releasing her debut EP. Jenny explains how she got involved with Terra Alta, how she became a certified permaculture teacher and the influence permaculture has had on her life as an artist.

Make sure to stick to the end to hear the stories of both our guests & enjoy the episode!

[The recording of this episode wasn't planned beforehand, therefore the audio quality is not the best, our apologies for this. However we think that the lovely stories of our guests compensate for this.]

Boerengroep:

https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL

https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl

Terra Alta

https://www.terralta.org/

Jenny ~ Jennifer Lourea

https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.lourea/?hl=nl

Pedro Valdjiu

https://www.instagram.com/pedrovaldjiu/

Special thanks to Dave Zammit for helping with the audio and video:

https://www.instagram.com/dave.zammit/

In this episode, we delve into the frightening powerful world of the agro-industry with our guest Roos Saat. 🌍🚜

Having grown up on a biodynamic farm close to Almere, de Stadsboerderij, Roos has always felt the urgency and the difficulty of a fundamental transformation of the food system. Roos is the co-founder of XR Agriculture and she is actively involved with Toekomstboeren as well as with the Agro-ecological network.

Tune in as we discuss the social aspect of farmer's protests, the importance of activism and the role of the Rabobank and universities, including the WUR, in industrial agriculture. 💸💰

This episode is hosted by Matti.

Links:

- https://extinctionrebellion.nl/community/xrlandbouw/ - https://boerengroep.nl/

- https://www.instagram.com/instaboerengroep/?hl=nl

- https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen/?locale=nl_NL

- https://toekomstboeren.nl/

- https://agroecologie.nl/

[THIS EPISODE IS IN DUTCH]

In deze aflevering van de podcast gaan we in gesprek met Wouter Kamphuis, een biodynamische boer van ‘t Leeuweriksveld in Emmen. Hij deelt zijn fascinerende kijk op onze huidige economie en landbouwpraktijken.

Het bezitten van land, klopt dat eigenlijk wel? Wat als het concept van landbezit altijd tijdelijk was? Welke impact heeft dit op de landbouw? We verkennen vraagstukken rondom eigendomsrecht en bespreken een economie gebaseerd op goederen en diensten. Is dit een onrealistisch, of is ons huidige landbouwsysteem juist een onhoudbare utopie?

Luister mee en vorm je eigen mening over dit boeiende onderwerp. Veel plezier met luisteren!

Links to Boerengroep:

• https://www.boerengroep.nl/

• FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boerengroepwageningen

• IG: instaboerengroep

English description:

In this episode of the podcast, we talk with Wouter Kamphuis, a biodynamic farmer from 't Leeuweriksveld in Emmen. He shares his fascinating perspective on our current economy and agricultural practices.

Does owning land really make sense? What if the concept of land ownership was always meant to be temporary? What impact does this have on agriculture? We explore issues surrounding property rights and discuss an economy based on goods and services. Is this an unrealistic notion, or is our current agricultural system actually an unsustainable utopia?