In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew sits down with one of his closest friends, mentors, and pastors — Rick Dunn. This is a conversation that has been over a decade in the making, and it shows.
Rick is a pastor, leadership coach, and spiritual father who has spent decades helping leaders stop trying to be God and start being sons. In this episode, he and Drew unpack what it actually looks like to move from identify to invite — not by launching a program or a gospel presentation, but by simply showing up. With compassion. With courage. With curiosity.
From the story of how Drew and Rick met in a small cohort of large church pastors, to Rick's time coaching basketball as his most meaningful ministry, to the moment his own daughter told him "now you'll know the impact" — this episode is a masterclass in what faithful, humble, proximate discipleship actually looks like over a lifetime.
Rick also introduces one of the most clarifying phrases in the episode: compassionate courageous curiosity. And closes with a word that every listener needs to hear. You have the freedom to be faithful. So get in the game.
Most people die with their music still inside of them. Don't be one of them.
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Reflection Questions

Who has shown up for you in a way that changed your life? Have you told them?
Who in your life right now is looking for someone to show up for them? What would it look like to take one step toward them this week?
Are you approaching the people around you with compassionate courageous curiosity — or are you leading with your title, your agenda, or your fear?

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In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew and Heather kick off the 21-Day Challenge — a practical, reproducible guide to living out the Disciples Diamond in your everyday life. Not for pastors. Not for super Christians. For the mom, the nurse, the coach, the retiree in Arkansas, and everyone in between.
Week one isn't about doing more. It's about praying first. Before you invite anyone into your life, before you share your story, before you answer a single question — you pray. You slow down. You start to name the faces in the places you already go. And you ask God to show you who He's already moving in.
This episode is a reminder that your school drop-off line, your office, your coffee shop, and your sports team are not random. They are your mission field. And it starts with one simple prayer — God, who have you put in my life?
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Reflection Questions

Who are the faces in the places you already go? Can you name them, or at least describe them?
Where do you see the same people showing up in multiple spaces of your life? That overlap is worth paying attention to.
Have you set your 9:38 alarm yet? This week, when it goes off, pray specifically for the people already on your list.

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In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew and Heather arrive at the fourth and final movement of the Disciples Diamond — Innovate. And it might be the most exciting part of the whole journey. You started as a follower. You became an inviter. You learned what it means to imitate Christ in front of people who are watching. And now comes the part that makes it all multiply. You become a sender. Drew unpacks what innovation actually looks like in everyday life — from the sweet spot framework of need, gifting, and joyful kingdom purpose, to the story of Rob who gave his life to Christ while walking through cancer, to a baseball team that turned into a decade of funerals, conversions, and front row seats to the kingdom of God. This episode is a reminder that faithful obedience in ordinary spaces is exactly how the gospel has always traveled.
Drew and Heather also walk through all four movements of the diamond one final time, connecting each step back to the ways of Jesus in the Gospels. Come and see. Follow me. Learn from me. As the Father sends me, I am sending you.

We're not innovating to be impressive. We're innovating because Jesus entrusted us with His mission and empowered us with His Spirit.
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Reflection Questions

Where is your sweet spot? Where do need, gifting, and joyful kingdom purpose intersect in your life right now?
Who are you pouring into that you could begin releasing and sending? Are you holding onto disciples instead of empowering them to go?
What ordinary space in your life — a sports team, a workplace, a neighborhood — could become a decade-long mission field if you showed up faithfully?

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