In this episode I talk with Dr. Rosemary Kelanic, director of the Middle East program at Defense Priorities, about why oil has shaped U.S. involvement in the Middle East and how it connects to the current U.S.-Iran war. She explains Trump's stated objectives (regime change, stopping a nuclear weapon, limiting missiles, ending proxy support) and traces the longer U.S.-Iran history from the 1953 coup through 1979. We discuss why the Middle East matters for low-cost oil, why the U.S. is still vulnerable to oil shocks despite high production, and how Strait of Hormuz disruption affects China, Europe (especially LNG), Russia's revenues and leverage, and Gulf-state relations with Iran. We cover oil's military importance, EV electrification as a partial solution, debates over U.S. grand strategy, credibility, and Taiwan, and she argues the U.S. should end the war.
(00:00) Why Oil Shapes Power
(00:21) Meet Dr. Rosemary Kelanic
(01:56) Why the US Is in Iran
(02:18) Four Stated War Goals
(04:03) 1953 Coup to 1979 Fallout
(05:59) Oil and the Cold War
(08:35) The Global Oil Bathtub
(11:24) China's Resilience and EV Edge
(13:30) Winners and Losers: Russia and Europe
(17:21) Allies React: Japan and Korea
(19:06) Victory Disease and No Exit
(21:58) Gulf States and Iran Relations
(23:39) Iran's Military and Domestic Politics
(26:16) US Politics and War Backlash
(28:03) Israel's Objectives vs US Interests
(30:52) Why Oil Matters for War
(31:24) Oil as War Fuel
(32:23) From Coal to Oil Power
(33:44) Electrifying Civilian Transport
(35:28) Oil Shocks and EV Adoption
(37:29) Defining Grand Strategy
(38:18) US Primacy and Posture
(40:47) Restraint and Overextension
(44:56) World War II Lessons
(46:25) Guns Versus Butter
(49:48) China, Bases, and Taiwan
(52:45) Credibility and Cold War Logic
(56:44) Ending the Iran War
(58:47) Further Reading and Wrap-Up
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