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EP 39 - Washington Plan 3 Pros and Cons Explained - Pension, Investments, and Retirement Risks (2025)

EP 39 - Washington Plan 3 Pros and Cons Explained - Pension, Investments, and Retirement Risks (2025)

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Free Washington Retirement Planning Community and CoursesWashington State Plan 3 is one of the most misunderstood retirement systems, part pension, part investment account. In this episode, we break down the real pros and cons of Plan 3 so you understand how it works, what it does well, and where it can fall short if you’re not careful.

You’ll learn why Plan 3’s 1% per year pension is still a valuable guaranteed benefit (and completely free), how the forced savings component helps many employees retire with more money than they otherwise would, and why Plan 3 pensions continue to grow by 3% per year even if you leave service early after 20 years.

We also cover the investment side, including contribution limits, default funds, target-date funds, and why many Plan 3 portfolios underperform compared to private retirement accounts. Then we explain the biggest downside: only half of your retirement income is guaranteed, while the other half depends on the market, timing, and sequence of returns.

In the second half, we answer a common listener question:

Can you access Plan 3 (401(a)) and Deferred Comp (457) after separating from service without penalties?

We walk through the Rule of 55, how Deferred Comp works differently, and a critical mistake people make when contributing to multiple 457 plans.

If you’re in PERS 3, TRS 3, or SERS 3, this episode will help you decide how to manage risk, income, and flexibility in retirement.


00:00 - What Plan 3 is and who it applies to

01:23 - Pro #1: 1% per year guaranteed pension (free benefit)

02:01 - Pro #2: Forced savings and long-term account growth

02:58 - Pension growth after leaving service early (3% per year)

03:52 - Using Plan 3 money for TAP annuities

04:27 - Con #1: You cannot change your contribution rate

04:59 - Con #2: Investment limitations and default fund risks

06:39 - Why Plan 3 portfolios often underperform private accounts

07:21 - Con #3: Only half your retirement income is guaranteed

08:40 - Why market volatility affects retirement income

09:12 - Listener Q&A: Accessing Plan 3 and Deferred Comp penalty-free

10:30 - Rule of 55 for Plan 3 explained

11:09 - Deferred Comp (457): No penalty after separation, any age

11:53 - Critical warning: Multiple 457 plans share one contribution limitLinks:

  1. ⁠⁠Free Washington Retirement Planning Community⁠⁠

  2. ⁠Plan 3 Investment Advice⁠

  3. ⁠Schedule Meeting⁠

  4. More free resources at ⁠WATRSPERS.com⁠

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